EK’s Star Log

Bloggers are not writers

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 · 12 Comments

Writers ask me this: “Why was my work rejected, all my blog buddies loved it!”. So, what? Just because you blog doesn’t mean you can write. Being a blogger does not make you a writer. Being a blogger make you a blogger. Same with RPG. RPGers hack out a few phrases of fan-fiction dialouge for a single character and it goes to their head and they go off telling every one they are a writer. Like hell they are. Bloggers and RPGers fan themselves with vain praises than bitch and moan when editor after editor throws the work back in their face and tells them it’s no good. They can’t understand why. Why? I’ll tell you why. The differance between a writer and a blogger/RPGer is the same as the differance between a tiny stream and the Grand Caynon.

This guy sums it up nicely. According to Zoltan, the writing squirrel:

The Rules- If you write, they must be followed.

Here are the rules I believe in, and that I use when I write and critique:

 

1- Please use proper grammar. If you dont care enough about your work to take the time to polish it and make it right, then I dont care enough to read it.

2- Please use proper punctuation. Same as above.

3- Please dont tell me its my fault that I “Didn’t get it.” Its the writers responsibility to make me understand, and to make me feel pleased as a reader. Period.

4- Please know how to write. You must understand exposition, good dialogue, pacing, plot and all of the other elements that are mandatory for a good story.

5- Edit before you post.

6- Show me, dont tell me.

7- Please avoid first person, at all costs, unless your writing skills are excellent. “I said…” “I feel that…” “I walked along…” When done poorly, first person seems like a list of actions, or at best, a live journal entry. Use third person, please

 

Once the above rules have been met, the more serious and constructive criticism comes into play:

8- Take your time. Make each sentence say something, and further more, mean something to the next sentence, to the paragraph, to the next paragraph, to the page, to the chapter, and to the whole story.

9- You must edit your work. Read it aloud to yourself. Surprisingly, that points out a lot of mistakes that only reading it wont do. Go paragraph by paragraph. Does it make sense? Did you contradict something you said or established earlier? Is it necessary?

10- Dont drag something out. Describe a setting, give us a mental picture, and move on. Find a happy medium between over-description and over-simplification, and stay there.

11- Write honest dialogue. You should never write something that you cant picture saying. I dont mean content wise, im talking about form:

-”Would thee accompany me to thine own home?” That makes me cringe.

-”Can I walk you home?” “Would you care for an escort home?” those are much better.

Also, dont write in slang. Its sloppy, and no one wants to read it.

12- Write good characters. Who am I investing my emotions in? Why should I do so? Who can I identify with? One sided, stereotypical cardboard characters are far too common. Give people personality; humanize them; and above all, make them evoke some sort of emotional response from me, the reader. Action and words should tell us all we need to know about them, not by the writer describing the words or actions.

Show different sides of your characters. Good guys do bad things, and bad guys usually have one or two decent qualities. Show us exactly that, and make it seem more real to us. We need to identify with everyone you write, even if its in some small way.

13- Avoid clichÃ?. Tempting bar wench’s; Silent, brooding men at arms; Young farm boys that hold the key to everything; The wise old wizard who helps a clueless groups of would be hero’s along; The evil tyrant, who lives only to do evil deeds…Sure, you have to tread on familiar ground sometimes, but be original. Write it in your own way.

14- Establish a setting. Can we feel the world youre creating? Are we drawn in by it, or are you simply telling us about it?

15- What is the point of the story? You dont have to say that right away, but foreshadowing is good. A hint of what is to come. Does everything you have written, serve the story as a whole? You can always go back and add some foreshadowing that will serve a purpose later.

16- Dont lose focus. Know what youre writing, where youre heading, and have a reasonable idea about where you will end up. Then, spend the length of your story taking us there. Not too fast as to miss things, or make them seem trivial, but not too slow as to bet anxious or bored.

17- Please be subtle. Dont tell us everything straight out. Dont be blatant about things. Let us discover things on our own, even if we draw the wrong conclusion. Dont make things over obvious if youre waiting to give them away or explain them down the road. Write it, then let it breathe.

18-Know your story. Why is Tom angry? Where did Alanna get her name? “Where did Krieger get his sword? Nothing just happens. You dont have to tell us everything, and in some cases you flat out shouldnt, but you should always know and from that knowledge, you will write a better story. Keep us guessing and wondering at the little things. Dont spoon feed us everything. Its like a musician explaining his song; In the same way that what he knows about its origin made it what it is, while the way I interpreted it made it my own.

19-Make sure you are consistent throughout your work. Dont jump back and forth between tenses; dont insert plot devices simply to give the characters something to do;

20- Be mindful of the POV (Point of view) in which youre writing. When writing from different characters POV’s, make sure that what they are thinking is true to them. Make them have their own personalities. Each person should have their own views, rationale, and way of thinking. Your main character should be the POV you use the most, although switching to others is good from time to time. It keeps things fresh, and can add mystery, especially if you show a POV from a less than favorable character or a villain.

21- Stay true to the genre youre writing in. Dont be clichÃ? and unoriginal, just be reasonable and give the reader something in the ballpark of what they expect. Dont add a robot into a fantasy story. For the most part, stick with convention.

22- Themes. All good stories will represent how you view things, and how you feel about the world around you. What is the theme of your story? Does the tone lend itself to the theme? As a reader, if I identify with the theme or message, I will surely want to read on, and will most likely enjoy doing so.

23- Plot. Is there conflict? Is there tension? Do the characters actually serve a purpose? the structure should look like this: A conflict arises, things go right, things go wrong, the characters react, things conclude, then you wrap it all up. That is obviously a loose structure, but basically it holds true. The fun part is fleshing those parts out, and adding your personal touches in between them.

24- End your chapters in a dynamic way. Whether with an event, a revelation, or a dramatic sentence or two, make me say “Ok, ill read just one more chapter.” Thatâs just a thing I like to do, and further more, that I like to read.

 

A strong theme, an engrossing plot, proper structure and form, identifiable and human characters, a familiar setting, and an attractive style; these are all needed with no exception.

 

While most of these are concrete rules of writing, some of them arenât, and all of them are my opinions. My opinions may not be shared by all. Then again, if someone doesnât think that the above needs to be followed, they most likely should be writing in the first place.

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He doesn’t say if he was the creator of this list or not, but I’m assuming that he is. I’ve been telling writers this same thing for years. Glad to see others have a head on their shoulders.

Are bloggers writers? Yes writers can be bloggers, but think of it this way:

How many blogs did  you take home from the library last week?

~~EK


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  • Elisa // Tuesday, April 17, 2007 at 5:39 pm | Reply

    I would respectfully disagree with you on this one. A person who writes – about their ideas, their passion, their reality – IS a writer. Their very action of physically putting word to paper or screen makes them a writer. To say they are not connotes a superior attitude that I tend to steer clear of. After all, who is anybody to judge the merit of another writer, or their potential?
    Besides, I think that the majority of writers today, especially of the younger generations, will eventually end up with blogs. The line between the two will increasingly grow fuzzy.

  • Dirk Gently // Tuesday, April 17, 2007 at 6:51 pm | Reply

    I read the first few, then skimmed the rest…..and totally agree. Personally I consider myself both a writer and a blogger. I write differently for each medium.

    My blogs are less “refined” (for want of a better word), my conversation in a one-to-one medium like a chat room or PM I use suite a few shortcuts, and think a lot less about typos…..the point is to be understood.

    Anything I’d consider “writing” gets all the due diligence you suggest, it gets picked over and refined.

    After completing my first short story I bought a “how to write a novel” book, hoping that I could refine my skills better now I’d written a short story, and apply the lessons to it in a rewrite…….I was kinda pissed off that I’d spent money on a book which gave me lesson after lesson of stuff I knew instinctively and applied without knowing the technical terms for them. I was also kinda thrilled that I’d hit enough marks without training.

    The advice you give is valid, and valuable. They match many sections in the book in principle.

  • P // Tuesday, April 17, 2007 at 9:18 pm | Reply

    No comments from anyone? Jeez – well…hmm, EK – you might have hurt some feelings on this topic!
    Truth hurts though, and I have to agree with you (although I don’t know what RPGer’s are).

    Here’s my double take – there are some people out there blogging that are writers, but there are a lot who aren’t. It’s just stinky. Now that doesn’t mean they aren’t *writers*, they just aren’t very good writers.

    What we need are more EDITORS. Writing well is not easy.

    Usually if I’m submitting material to be possibly published, I revise and revise and revise and revise and ….

    But with a blog, you can quickly post and entry just to find some crappy sentence in there later, a “your” instead of an “you’re ” , a missing “and” or “a”. An editor would have caught all of that.

    What I need is a “prepost checklist”.
    I’m working that out now…

    Funny how I was just thinking about this subject yesterday.

    P

  • EelKat // Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 12:06 am | Reply

    I think Zoltan’s list is good for a check-list for the final draft of a manuscript.

    I do repeat myself though: Bloggers are not writers, they can write a diary of their daily lives, yes. They can rant about everything under the sun, yes. But how many blogs get published? When I go to the library, I do not see a section where you can check out blogs. I do not find any blogs that I can take home and read on the beach. I do not see any blogs on my bookshelf either. (Remember, I own The Twighlight Manor Library, my bookshelf has got over 10,000 books on it… but I’ve yet to find a blog that I could put on the shelf… do let me know when you find one, though, cause I’ll gladly shelf it.)

    RPG = Role Playing Games; most common of which is Dungeons & Dragons, with Harry Potter and Pirates of the Caribean following close behind. RPGers are folks who play RPG. RPG requires multiple players to go online and post comments (much like a chat room set-up). They become wizards and elves and pirates and such and they “act out” the character roles by writing what “they are doing”. The whole thing is a giant interactive online story, and is quite a lot of fun, but though many have tried, RPGs never get published because they are too “scattered around” and don’t hold the plot together very well.

    Truth does hurt, but truth also makes you a better writer. How? Because if you know why your writing fails to get published, than you know how to correct it’s flaws so that it can be published.

    ~~EK

  • Wills // Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 5:26 am | Reply

    Mm, really good points from both sides. I agree that creative writing (like writing short stories, poetry, a play) warrants styles different to blogging… but at the same time both are valid froms of writing.

    The difference in quality between bloggers and published writers could lie in the fact that bloggers generally don’t get any editing before they put up their work. In fact, if every post I made had to be run by someone, the end result may not be a blog anymore. It could be grammatically accurate and so on, but could also have changes that change your original meaning…

    - Wills

  • Dirk Gently // Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 11:35 am | Reply

    A blog also tends to be more immediate, without any editing to refrain or focus it.

    Comparing blogs that you wouldn’t put on a bookshelf, or read at the beach etc is a bit like comparing apples and pears…..yeah to the touch they both have bum cracks, but they are not the same.

    Blogs tend to be MUCH shorter, with no storyline as such. The responses (if any) they get often go off in all sorts of tangents, with all sorts of standards of writing.

    Blogs are an evolution of the diary….which is shared with and allowed to be commented on by the public. Diary entries are about laying down private thoughts, they may or may nor make sense to anyone else.

    My blog entries are quite long, I am working on refining them down. So far I have a long way to go lol.

    I find the longer the blog entry, the more you time and effort you expect people to invest in reading and understanding what you mean.

  • P // Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 12:20 pm | Reply

    Yeah, I like Dirk’s view of blogging as an evolution of a diary.

    I suppose the question that every blogger must ask is “Why am I doing this?”

    Is my blog a diary? Is it a spring board to something bigger? Is it a place to practice my writing craft? I guess everyone needs to answer that.

    Now, EK – I just heard the other day of an interesting project that will be taking place here in the Boston, MA. area.

    A new newspaper is picking 100 or so bloggers (I don’t remember the exact number) but the newspaper will publish the blogs and …i dunno…sell it…give it away free.

    It’s the whole “Bloggers are *not* journalists or *are* they” issue.

    So why are *you* blogging? EK, Dirk, Wills , Elisa?

  • Dirk Gently // Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 1:36 pm | Reply

    Personally, I have a lot of isolated ideas about things, mostly sparked by news stories, current affairs. Those ideas I have no intention of putting the growth work into…..but I need to release them to allow me to concentrate on other things.

    My blog allows me to be disparate in subject matter. It is also a training platform for shortening and focusing my work…..so far part two is failing.

    It allows me to share observations about the world around me which others may have missed, or may decide to have their own take on after reading my blog.

  • Dirk Gently // Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 10:01 pm | Reply

    The line “bloggers are not journalists” just spun off another tangent in my head.

    Bloggers often shoot from the hip, their information gleamed from a whole variety of sources on and offline; some of which may be bullshit.

    All of my blogs are aggregated knowledge, filtered through my experience and instincts…I rarely remember where I heard a phrase or comment…..I watch too many documentaries to take notes as they are watched as entertainment / education….not “blogging source material”

    Bloggers rarely provide sources for their scoop….journalists have to, or at least they must have them….even if they are “a source close to”

    Journalists have to go research the stories themselves, go interview the people, phone round and try to trick people who have information to divulge it……and to siphon everything they get through the political / religious / moral stance of the newspaper and end up with a story at the end…..all to a deadline.

    Journalists are also restricted by publishing codes of conduct which includes swearing.

    The last point may be a minor one, that depends on if your temporarily empty of cash, but journalists get paid….most bloggers don’t…..at least for their blogs. Affiliate codes aside (which is advertising or reseller revenue, not paid for writing).

  • EelKat // Thursday, April 19, 2007 at 2:47 am | Reply

    Why do you blog? That is a very good question. I’m glad you asked, cause it makes me stop and evaluate myself. I like doing that. Now I have to stop and think. Why do I blog? Okay, let’s see.

    I think it’s a “multi-task” reason. First off, I started blogging because I just wanted to have a place where I could talk about any subject that popped into my head. At the time I had just started building websites, and I found out than how longwinded I could get. No, that’s not true…. I already knew how longwinded I was. I’ve have pen-pals since the 1980’s, more than 70 of them from all over the world. My average letter to each person was 20 pages long and I wrote on both sides for a total of 40 written pages. I wrote a letter a day, on top of my fiction/book writing. I was a teenager in the 1980’s and I was writing to other teenagers. Sadly, one by one, my pen-pals grew up, got married, had kids, and eventually we all stopped writing to each other. I went from writing to 70 people to writing to 2 people. I started feeling very lonely. I transfred from pen snail mail to email in 1997. By 2004 blogging was becoming the “in thing” so I tried it out as well, and it quickly took the place of my pen-pal writing.

    So, I guess you could say, blogging was my way of communicating to people worldwide, when pen-paling went out of fashion. Like when I was pen-palling though, I keep my blogging and my book/fiction writing separate. I do not think of them as the same things. One I do because I’m obsessively compelled to write about the characters that are in my head, I have to get them out on paper, otherwise I’d never be able to do anything else; I have never felt that I had control over my books, but that the characters themselves take over.

    The other (blogging) I do, because I am driven by the desire to just talk about whatever topic I may want to talk about. As those who have today, meet me face-to face know, my actual ability to speak is rather limited due to the fact I grew up in a family where speaking was almost forbidden, and topics one could talk about were limited to The Bible or the Book of Mormon and pretty much nothing else. The result was I rebelled against them by writing to people outside the confines of our family: pen-pals and later blogging.

    Last year when I got my job at Macy’s I was faced with something I had never anticipated: the telephone. This is not a thing that I had used more than a couple of times in my entire life. The first few times it rang, I did not answer and my boss was quite upset with me. I had not realized that I was supposed to answer, she had not told me that use of a phone was to be part of my job, and when I did answer it, I found it very difficult to use, never having used one before. This causde me to be chided by the other girls who I worked with, girls 10 to 15 years younger than me, girls who asked, how can you have never used a phone before? Girls who found reason to force me to speak as a result. My answer was quite simple, I have never needed to use a phone before, I don’t talk, I write. At work they questioned my working and never taking a break to talk with either costumer or worker. My answer again, was the same. I do not talk, I write, I was there to do my job, not talk, I had no reason to talk and saw it as a waste of time that distracted from my work. My job at Macy’s was my first real face-to-face contact with people outside of family or my family’s church, I had not realized how much people talk. Nor had I realized that getting a job would involve the act of talking or phoning. When I want to talk to some one I write them a letter, that is what I have always done. Now with the online world, people no longer answer my letters, they respond only to tell me their phone number or email adress, neither phone nor email I use, and so instead I write a new post on one of my 12 blogs. For me blogging is a form of communication, that takes the place of talking, talking being a thing which I don’t really like to do, simply because I’m not used to doing it. Blogging is, for me, what I suppose you would call “talking”, which is why I do not consider blogers to be writers..

    And there in lay the difference I find between blogging and writing. Writing is something that I do to write books, as I have been doing since 1978. Writing is the creation of stories, while blogging is just me talking to you. That’s why I blog, to “talk“ not to write.

    My other reason to blog, is to teach people what I know about writing. Writing takes up 90% of my time. I spend about 8 hours a day asleep, 2 or 3 hours a day taking care of the animals, and the rest of those 13 hours I spend writing, either one paper for my books or online for my blogs. I have been doing this for 27 years now. My life evolves around writing, the result of my writing so much, so often, is that I’m often asked for my advice about writing, thus how my blog turned into a blog devoted to helping other to become writers and why most of the posts on my blog are devoted to teaching others how to write.

    That is why I blog.

    ~~EK

  • georgeous // Friday, April 20, 2007 at 11:20 am | Reply

    Blogging is such a new mode of communication that we are all still grappling with the subtle etiquette, as I see it.
    Writing has been around for longer, and perhaps editing proof is only slightly younger. If you write something and don’t expect to see it in print for many months, you consequently attach greater importance to its content and structure.
    Grammar is the mechanics of language. If the mechanics don’t work, the language doesn’t get the message from A to B.
    I like to blog as it’s another form of conversation, amazingly, with people from around the world with whom I previously had no connection whatsoever.

  • Dmitri // Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 9:30 am | Reply

    I for one am completely aware that the style of my blogging isn’t good enough for literature proper. I suspect that when writing a blog, you are in a more relaxed, less dedicated mood than when you write a book or article.

    That and the fact that a text box in a web browser is hardly a place to be writing anything serious.

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