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NaNoWriMo RE: Metaphysical and Self-Help Subjects

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Metaphysical and Self-Help Subjects

 

Debra Linker
Metaphysical and Self-Help Subjects

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Oct 8, 2010 – 13 40
New to NaNo and was hoping to see a Metaphysical / Self-Help topic in this forum. I didn’t find one (could have missed it, so if so, please redirect me) so thought I would start a ‘section’ for general discussion… Thanks!

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Somewhere around here, I started thread #3 on this forum, I forget what the title was, and I’m not sure if it’s still in this forum or got moved…anyways, there was at one point a thread mentioning Metaphysical and Self-Help Subjects – I know because I started it! =P

As usual, I’ve got several books and plots running rampant in my head this year. There’s a sci-fi and a horror and a fantasy, about a dozen short stories creeping in, and one not quite fiction but not quite non-fiction Metaphysical Self-Help Book!

Here’s a thing I posted about it in the “intro” thread:

    I’m still deciding on genre, it could go several ways, Historical Fiction, Fantasy, but the more I think about it the more it is leaning towards Religious-Supernatural-Spiritual. Probably will end up New Age Fantasy or something like that.I’m thinking of writing a story that deals with the power of dreams and how they effect the MC. It’s not religious per say, and leans more towards New Age Fantasy I think, though I was having thoughts about adding the Pleasians into part of it, which could turn it into Sci-Fi right quick! LOL!Briefly:The MC is a Native American going on a Spirit Quest. But it’s not a typical Spirit Quest, because every time he falls asleep, he wakes up in another realm/world (is actually transported there). In Dreamtime he meets his Spirit Guide, and each night the Guide sends him on a different “quest” or journey. He ends up, by the end of the book having a deep spiritual “awakening” and returns to his village as a Shaman/Spiritual Leader. The book itself will be sort of a anthology of short stories, where each chapter will be a different night/dream quest. So it’ll be like a bunch of mini-stories which make up one big story.I hope that made sense to you. I’m not 100% sure I’m going with this plot or not, I’ve got a few other in my head too, but this one I really like.

Now, from reading that you would think it was a fiction book right? Well, like I said, that’s just breifly describing it. When I go into more detail, it comes off sounding non-fiction and self helpish instead. I’ll try to explain.

First off, I got the original idea after reading this book: Magical Meditations: Guided Imagery for the Pagan Path

My idea grew farther after reading this book: Creative Visualization: Use the Power of Your Imagination to Create What You Want in Your Life (Gawain, Shakti)

And than last month, the whole thing just sort of took off big time after I read this book Healing Visualizations: Creating Health Through Imagery and this book: The Secrets of Self-Hypnosis: Harnessing the Power of Your Unconscious Mind

They are self help books, but at the same time they are each a set of short stories as well.

What each of those books has in common is lots of short, quick, 1 to 5 page long “visualizations” or “mini-stories” in which you the reader are the main character and you step through the physical realm into the spiritual realm, by visualizing yourself there. Sometimes you “walk” to the beach turn into a seal and swim under the ocean. Sometime you “become” a tree and dig your feet/roots deep into the earth while letting your hair/leaves blow with the wind, sometimes you sprout wings and fly over mountain tops with eagles.

I was fascinated by these 4 books and their use of taking super short mini fiction and turning it into a way to bring inner peace to your mind and soul. I loved reading these so much that I wanted to write my own book like them, and that’s how my NaNoPlot mentioned above came into esistance.

And so, my book, the one I’ll most likly write first, I ususally write several each NaNo, will most likely be this qusi-fiction/non-fiction metaphysical novel of guided imagry short story self help meditations. On the one hand it’s going to be a metaphysical self help book, but on the other hand it’s going to read like a “choose your own adventure” novel and than if you can find a third hand to stick out it will also be like a set of super short mini-short stories. So it’s sort of a take your pick as to which “genre” it falls under! LOL!

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>NaNoWriMo RE: Metaphysical and Self-Help Subjects

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Metaphysical and Self-Help Subjects

 

Debra Linker
Metaphysical and Self-Help Subjects

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Joined: Oct 8, 2010
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Oct 8, 2010 – 13 40
New to NaNo and was hoping to see a Metaphysical / Self-Help topic in this forum. I didn’t find one (could have missed it, so if so, please redirect me) so thought I would start a ‘section’ for general discussion… Thanks!

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Somewhere around here, I started thread #3 on this forum, I forget what the title was, and I’m not sure if it’s still in this forum or got moved…anyways, there was at one point a thread mentioning Metaphysical and Self-Help Subjects – I know because I started it! =P

As usual, I’ve got several books and plots running rampant in my head this year. There’s a sci-fi and a horror and a fantasy, about a dozen short stories creeping in, and one not quite fiction but not quite non-fiction Metaphysical Self-Help Book!

Here’s a thing I posted about it in the “intro” thread:

    I’m still deciding on genre, it could go several ways, Historical Fiction, Fantasy, but the more I think about it the more it is leaning towards Religious-Supernatural-Spiritual. Probably will end up New Age Fantasy or something like that.I’m thinking of writing a story that deals with the power of dreams and how they effect the MC. It’s not religious per say, and leans more towards New Age Fantasy I think, though I was having thoughts about adding the Pleasians into part of it, which could turn it into Sci-Fi right quick! LOL!Briefly:The MC is a Native American going on a Spirit Quest. But it’s not a typical Spirit Quest, because every time he falls asleep, he wakes up in another realm/world (is actually transported there). In Dreamtime he meets his Spirit Guide, and each night the Guide sends him on a different “quest” or journey. He ends up, by the end of the book having a deep spiritual “awakening” and returns to his village as a Shaman/Spiritual Leader. The book itself will be sort of a anthology of short stories, where each chapter will be a different night/dream quest. So it’ll be like a bunch of mini-stories which make up one big story.I hope that made sense to you. I’m not 100% sure I’m going with this plot or not, I’ve got a few other in my head too, but this one I really like.

Now, from reading that you would think it was a fiction book right? Well, like I said, that’s just breifly describing it. When I go into more detail, it comes off sounding non-fiction and self helpish instead. I’ll try to explain.

First off, I got the original idea after reading this book: Magical Meditations: Guided Imagery for the Pagan Path

My idea grew farther after reading this book: Creative Visualization: Use the Power of Your Imagination to Create What You Want in Your Life (Gawain, Shakti)

And than last month, the whole thing just sort of took off big time after I read this book Healing Visualizations: Creating Health Through Imagery and this book: The Secrets of Self-Hypnosis: Harnessing the Power of Your Unconscious Mind

They are self help books, but at the same time they are each a set of short stories as well.

What each of those books has in common is lots of short, quick, 1 to 5 page long “visualizations” or “mini-stories” in which you the reader are the main character and you step through the physical realm into the spiritual realm, by visualizing yourself there. Sometimes you “walk” to the beach turn into a seal and swim under the ocean. Sometime you “become” a tree and dig your feet/roots deep into the earth while letting your hair/leaves blow with the wind, sometimes you sprout wings and fly over mountain tops with eagles.

I was fascinated by these 4 books and their use of taking super short mini fiction and turning it into a way to bring inner peace to your mind and soul. I loved reading these so much that I wanted to write my own book like them, and that’s how my NaNoPlot mentioned above came into esistance.

And so, my book, the one I’ll most likly write first, I ususally write several each NaNo, will most likely be this qusi-fiction/non-fiction metaphysical novel of guided imagry short story self help meditations. On the one hand it’s going to be a metaphysical self help book, but on the other hand it’s going to read like a “choose your own adventure” novel and than if you can find a third hand to stick out it will also be like a set of super short mini-short stories. So it’s sort of a take your pick as to which “genre” it falls under! LOL!

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>Getting Ready for Script Frenzy 2010 – Anyone else?

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Getting Ready for 2010 – Anyone else?

I’m getting ready for next year. After missing 3 years in a row I’m determined to do it this year.

I know it’s only December 2009, but heck, it took me four months to figure out my NaNoWriMo plot, so why not spend four months plotting my Screnzy plot right?

Not enirely sure what I’m doing yet, but I do know this:

#1: I’m writing a stage play.
#2: It’ll most likely be horror.
#3: I will probably end up writing ten 10 min plays instead of one 100 min play.

Right now I’m thinking about doing one or more of these (all are horror):

Emmett: A scam artist traveling preacher takes shelter from a storm in a house haunted by were-cats. (Based on Civil War Slave Folk Tale)

The Artist: A prostitute is rescued from an attacker by a young artist named Jack (who does not know she’s a prostitute). Jack falls in love but gets his heart broken by the girl, than takes his art career to a whole new level when he becomes known as Jack the Ripper.

The Pearl Necklace: Shipwrecked on a deserted island, a young woman awake to find a strange string of pearls around her neck and an island that is not as deserted as it at first seemed. (Based on Scandinavian Legend).

InuGami: A faithful dog returns from the grave to avenge his mistress’s murder. (Based on Japanese Folk Tale).

The Hand: A boy lost in the forest discovers a dismembered hand which beckon him to follow it. (Not sure where it comes from, Scandinavian, I think.)

The Castle of Blood: Woman in the kingdom are mysteriously disappearing, all of them last seen in the company of the king. Three sisters set out to find out is happening. (Based on Blue Beard.) (Brother’s Grimm Story Retold).

Shiver: A retelling of “The Boy Who Left Home to Find Out About Fear”. (Brother’s Grimm Story Retold).

The Tailypoe: A hunter’s worst nightmares come true when the ghost of a wild cat he killed, comes back to get revenge. (Based on Civil War Slave Folk Tale)

The Juniper Tree: When famine strikes the kingdom, families send their children to safety in another country. Oddly, one family seems to have an unending supply of fresh meat. (Based on a German Folk Tale). (Brother’s Grimm Story Retold).

My goal, as it stands right now, is to rewrite each of these, the bloodiest and most gruesome of all the classic fairy tales, as a ten minute play, each just ten pages long.

And that’s what I’ll be doing for Script Frenzy 2010. What about you? Got any plans yet?

Waiting for Emmett to come.

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Getting Ready for Script Frenzy 2010 – Anyone else?

Getting Ready for 2010 – Anyone else?

I’m getting ready for next year. After missing 3 years in a row I’m determined to do it this year.

I know it’s only December 2009, but heck, it took me four months to figure out my NaNoWriMo plot, so why not spend four months plotting my Screnzy plot right?

Not enirely sure what I’m doing yet, but I do know this:

#1: I’m writing a stage play.
#2: It’ll most likely be horror.
#3: I will probably end up writing ten 10 min plays instead of one 100 min play.

Right now I’m thinking about doing one or more of these (all are horror):

Emmett: A scam artist traveling preacher takes shelter from a storm in a house haunted by were-cats. (Based on Civil War Slave Folk Tale)

The Artist: A prostitute is rescued from an attacker by a young artist named Jack (who does not know she’s a prostitute). Jack falls in love but gets his heart broken by the girl, than takes his art career to a whole new level when he becomes known as Jack the Ripper.

The Pearl Necklace: Shipwrecked on a deserted island, a young woman awake to find a strange string of pearls around her neck and an island that is not as deserted as it at first seemed. (Based on Scandinavian Legend).

InuGami: A faithful dog returns from the grave to avenge his mistress’s murder. (Based on Japanese Folk Tale).

The Hand: A boy lost in the forest discovers a dismembered hand which beckon him to follow it. (Not sure where it comes from, Scandinavian, I think.)

The Castle of Blood: Woman in the kingdom are mysteriously disappearing, all of them last seen in the company of the king. Three sisters set out to find out is happening. (Based on Blue Beard.) (Brother’s Grimm Story Retold).

Shiver: A retelling of “The Boy Who Left Home to Find Out About Fear”. (Brother’s Grimm Story Retold).

The Tailypoe: A hunter’s worst nightmares come true when the ghost of a wild cat he killed, comes back to get revenge. (Based on Civil War Slave Folk Tale)

The Juniper Tree: When famine strikes the kingdom, families send their children to safety in another country. Oddly, one family seems to have an unending supply of fresh meat. (Based on a German Folk Tale). (Brother’s Grimm Story Retold).

My goal, as it stands right now, is to rewrite each of these, the bloodiest and most gruesome of all the classic fairy tales, as a ten minute play, each just ten pages long.

And that’s what I’ll be doing for Script Frenzy 2010. What about you? Got any plans yet?

Waiting for Emmett to come.

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Script Frenzy RE: Need a TITLE for my PLOT!!

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RE: Need a TITLE for my PLOT!!

FrostPrincess
Posted
August 24, 2009 – 17:08

Need a TITLE for my PLOT!!
Well, seeing as how I’m 13, and my plot could be about something not really age-appropriate for me, I can’t ask my family for a title, so… Can anybody help me?? Here’s the plot:

When a rendezvous turns sour, a young French/German prostitute has to escape from her “buyer”. She runs into Jack Weller, a budding British artist who is trying to imprint his art on the world, and he learns that she is trying to get away, but doesn’t know why. He decides to let her come with him and they both leave on a train. (This takes place in 1870s) They both begin to fall slowly in love.

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Of course, Maria, the girl, doesn’t tell Jack that she’s a prostitute. She lies and says that the man she is running away from is her ex-husband (Or maybe just her husband..). Of course, I might change the plot to be more like:

She’s still a prostitute, but when she runs from the man, she first runs into Jack when he’s at an artist convention at the hotel she’s at. She happens to be dressed like a maid, so he thinks nothing of it. Then after managing to stay hidden from the man, she sees an add in the newspaper for a helper to an artist. She visits the address to discover that the artist is Jack. She’s familiar to him, but he doesn’t remember where from, so she lies and says she’s never met him.

He accepts her as his “apprentice” and they head off to another convention in England. As the man chases her at the train station, she lies to Jack and says that is her crazed ex-husband that she is trying to get away from.

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I think I like the second one the best, but I need some advice on which to choose. I also need a title, as I advertised in the title. Any help?

My first thought was this:

prostitute + British guy named Jack + 1870′s + rendezvous gone bad = Jack the Ripper

So reading your plots, I thought – what if the guy she was running from wasn’t half as bad as the guy who was helping her? What if her Jack was Jack the Ripper? What if her new lover was a charming artist by day and prostitute killer by night? He’s falling in love with her, thinking she’s a “good girl”, but than he finds out she’s a prostitute and becomes enraged and now she’s trapped with him and has to escape him too before he kills her. Or what if, it’s BECAUSE he finds out that she’s a prostitute that he than gives up his art career and becomes Jack the Ripper and that’s the reason he only targets prostitutes?

WOW! I like that – I’ve always wanted to write a Jack the Ripper story, I may write that one out myself! LOL! I write horror, so, yeah, I read your romance plot and saw it as a horror plot. =P

ANYWAYS – the title I thought of was “The Artist”. Others “Train to My Heart”, “Love on the Run”, “Night Flight”.

Did they have art conventions in the 1870′s? and if so, would it have been at a hotel? I’ve no idea. I can’t say as I’ve ever heard of such a thing before.

I like the idea of having the whole story take place on the train. The opening scene is her running on to the train as is pulling out of the station, she’s not watching where she’s going or even thinking about what she’s doing and it’s a few moments before she even realizes that in her panic she jumped on to the train. She runs down to lane to hide from the conductor collecting tickets and runs into Jack, sending him and his attache of art supplies to the floor. Realizing she’s running from the conductor he quickly makes an excuse about having lost her ticket and buys one for her and that’s how she ends up joining him on the trip. Unknown to her, while this is going on, her attacker is running after the train, leaps and grabs the caboose ladder at the last second. . . . Wow. You’ve got a plot rolling in my head now. (Jack before he became The Ripper.) I must go write it down before I forget.

I’m probably not being very helpful to you, seeing how I took your plot and stuck a crazy serial killer in it. Oh well. I guess you can tell I like writing about serial killers.

Waiting for Emmett to come.

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NaNoWriMo RE: Commitment to being a “Writer”

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RE: Commitment to being a “Writer”

BrettRoxGlowing Halo
Commitment to being a “Writer”
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I’ve done NaNoWriMo for four years now. I’m still editing my ’08 effort with help of local critique group, hope to one day edit my ’07 attempt and still need to finish the story for ’09. Let’s not talk about ’06, okay? :D
At any rate, my challenge over the next 11 months is to write every day. At least 500 words. This is my commitment to becoming a better writer, and a way to work toward one day doing it for a living, perhaps. My 500 words a day will focus on fiction, but on rare, once-a-month-or-so occasion I have to submit a movie review for my freelance gig, I’ll count that as well. So far, so good. I’m 11 for 11, and 41-for-41 if you count all the days of nanoing in November.
Add all those words up over the course of the year (assuming 50k+ in November), and that’s about 220,000 words a year. And that’s assuming the minimum. The other day I wrote almost 1,400, so that number could be a lot bigger.
I figure this should put me well on the path to honing the craft, maybe publishing a few short stories (here’s one from earlier this year: http://www.emuse-zine.com/Jun2009/page36.html) along the way. And eventually selling a manuscript or self-publishing.
Any way I look at it, this crazy adventure looks and feels like the way to becoming a real writer. The hard part will be finding readers, I suppose!
Follow me on twitter, if you’d like (http://twitter.com/brttrx), and join me on this big, scary adventure if you like!

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“You’re pretty good with words, but words won’t save your life.”
NaNo ’09: Best Served Ninja (won)
NaNo ’08: Parallel Misfortune (won)
NaNo ’07: Finding Allison Wu (won)
NaNo ’06: Taijitu (won)

I’m doing a similar thing, only my goal is 1,000 words per day, 5 days per week, not including the words I’ll write during April and November (Script Frenzy ans NaNoWriMo). So that’s a minimum of 260,000, plus the aprox 20k for Screnzy and 100k for NaNo, putting my grand total for word count in 2010 at: 380,000 words by December 2010.

I tend to write about 3,000 words per sitting and usually twice per day. So reaching my goal in that respect is not a problem. The problem I have is the EVERY DAY part. I tend to only write one or two days per week. So, in the end, for me, this goal is not so much about word count as it is about getting into the “every day” habit. So I figure if I aim at writing smaller word counts each day, I should, in theory at least, end up writing more than if I continue with large word counts once or twice a week. The theory being that I’ll keep right on with the high counts, just more often.

Also, secretly I’m hoping that I’ll get into my twice a day 3k kick every single day, and thus end up writing a million words by the end of 2010, but that’s a pretty tall order, so I’m not officially committing myself to that goal. However, if if by the start of Big Scary 2011, I have succeeding in writing at least 1k each day, than next year, writing at least 3k each day WILL be my goal giving me an end total of 1,095,000. So if I don’t do it this year, I try for a million next year.

Incubus: Fear the Night!

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NaNoWriMo RE: Anybody taking on a Big, Fun, Scary Blogging Project? (Plays and Script Frenzy)

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RE: Anybody taking on a Big, Fun, Scary Blogging Project?

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I know I am!

I’m going to write 100 tiny plays in 2010.
Some Reasons:

-I’m a young playwright, and I need a lot of practice. (And after about 3 years working on my big pretentious magnum opus, I could use some tiny practice.)
-I’m trying to figure out how theatre can be more like music (without necessarily being “musical theatre”), so creating some song-sized theatre seems like a good place to begin.

Some Rules:

-I must post at least 1 play a week (and at least 2 most weeks, in order to meet the goal).
-Each play must be a self-contained entity. (If it is impossible for an outsider to grok, I fail.)
-The plays must be tiny. (We will use a sliding scale on this, but if one can’t be reasonably expected to read the play over breakfast, it’s a fail in the tiny department.)

Some Rights:

-I get to write plays that are not so good sometimes.
-I get to revisit characters and situations.
-I get to be as vulgar or as sentimental as I want.
-I get to make the occasional non-play post, provided a) it is about theatre, and b) it is not boring.

***
Anybody else apparently gone nuts in similar fashion?
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Great minds think alike! LOL!

Your goal is similar to one of mine. I posted my list on the stickied thread with lots of lists on one thread if you want to read my entire, huge long list. The list I posted doesn’t go into details though, it just lists off each thing I want to do this year. One of those things, was to “expand my playwright career”, I said I planned to write a bunch of “mini-plays” this year. But that’s all I said. I’ll expand on that now and explain what I plan to do.

I was thinking how, plays that are “too long” get boring and I don’t want to fall into the trap of writing boring plays. Than I started thinking how songs are able to tell an entire story in as little as four minutes, so why can’t a play do the same? So, I decided that I wanted to write an anthology of mini-plays this year – my goal was at least one anthology with at least ten, 10 minute plays.

Than, the more I started thinking about it, the farther I expanded my goal.

My next idea was to go one step farther and write several anthologies of 10-minute plays, each anthology being one a single theme. The themes I came up with so far are:

    Valentines Plays
    Easter Plays
    Halloween Plays
    Christmas Plays
    Princess Tales
    Brothers Grimm Retold
    Beach – Ocean – Under the Sea

I’ll think of more most likely but those are what I came up with so far.

I was than farther thinking of doing a set of 12 volumes – one for each month, and publishing those for the grade school market – for classroom plays for kids.

So, you can see I’m still working out just exactly what it is that I want to do, but my goal is basically the same as yours: to write several mini-plays through out the year.

Incubus: Fear the Night!

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“Rule #3: The main character can’t be clinically insane.” What the hell? Who thinks up rules for playwrights? (A Script Frenzy Rant)

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I was reading Marsha Norman’s Tips for Playwrights and was stunned by her #3 choice as a required rule for script writing. Here is what she lists as her three top choices:

Marsha Norman’s Tips for Playwrights

Rule #1: No passive central character;
Rule #2: On or about page 8, tell the audience why they are here and what is at stake, or to put it more simply, when they can go home.
Rule #3: The main character can’t be clinically insane.

Now first off, I can’t stand any one who is so holier-than-thou that they would go so far as to tell you which PAGE NUMBER you should put what on in your script. So right off the back I had a bone to pick with her with her #2 rule, but it was her #3 rule that really spun me off on a rant.

“Rule #3: The main character can’t be clinically insane.” What the hell? Can you believe the audacity of it? Who thinks up rules for playwrights?

I can’t figure out where people come up with these “rules”, I see them all the time, but this one just pissed me off, because it was so ridiculous! I mean 90% of the plays, tv shows, and movies out there have a clinically insane character in them. Of course, being “clinically insane” myself, this is an issue that gets me ranting because I hate the whole stereotype.

Okay: raise your hand if you know the following plays:

Hamlet

A Christmas Carol

Macbeth

Arsenic and Old Lace

Yeah, all feature a clinically insane main character! WOW! I guess THOSE should have flopped big time, huh?

Now what I want to know is, how does she rationalize this idiotic rule? Why can’t the main character be clinically insane? Or maybe I should take it one step farther and ask her: Do you even know what a “clinically insane” person is? Would you know one if you saw one. If you met me face to face would you think I was clinically insane? Probably not. Most people don’t. But guess what? I am.

So I take it that the woman who came up with this ridiculous “Rule #3: The main character can’t be clinically insane.” probably thinks of all “clinically insane” people as a cardboard carbon copy stereotype. Well, I got news for you, I may be crazy, but I ain’t no damned stereotype! And neither are any of my main characters, who, guess what, they are what you would term “clinically insane.”

I have Schizotipal Asperger’s Syndrome. For those who don’t know what that is, it means I have three different mental disorders: Autism, Schizophrenia, and OCD. I am technically considered to be clinically insane. I guess I wouldn’t make a very good main character according to her would I?

All of my main characters are either Schizotypal Aspies, Autistic, Schizophrenic, or OCD. I can’t write about “normal” characters, because I wouldn’t know the first thing about getting inside the head of a “normal” character. I write what I know, as does every writer. =P

Of course, one of the most famous plays ever written was Hamlet, about a guy who walked around talking to skulls, ghosts, invisible being who no one else could see, and over all spent more time in the company of dead people that living people. Interesting.

And what about A Christmas Carol? Can you honestly say that the violent, sadistic Scrooge who spends his nights hob-knobbing with ghosts and spirits is “normal”?

How about Pirates of the Caribbean’s Jack Sparrow? He boldly goes where no sane person could ever go and is not afraid to say as much.

Would you consider Doctor Who to be sane? Most say he’s a raving madman.

So are you saying that main characters like Captain Jack, Scrooge, and Hamlet and I don’t know, just about every other main character ever used in a play, TV show, or movie is NOT clinically insane? Or do you just not know what it is that causes a person to be classified as be clinically insane?

And are you aware that most mental health physicians would quickly classify EVERY Christian who talks (prays) to God – Jesus – Mary, to be clinically insane because they are talking to a person they can not see, never will see, and can not prove exists? So, all in all, sanity really is a question of perspective.

I have to wonder though, how did she come up with that as a rule for writing a script? Nine out of every ten Main characters from hugely successful plays, TV shows, and movies IS in fact considered to be clinically insane, in fact, it’s the plays, TV shows, and movies which feature “normal” main characters that flop.

And while I’m on this subject, let’s talk about the stereotypes shall we? Let’s look at her cloice of words here: “Rule #3: The main character can’t be clinically insane.” Does any one else have a problem with her using the term “clinically insane”?

What’s wrong with it? I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it: it’s no different than calling a black person a nigar, THAT’S what’s wrong with it! Just like no person with any sort of dignity would even think to call a black man a nigar, so to would no reputable doctor who ever think to call some one with a learning disability “clinically insane”. The term hasn’t been used medically in a good 60 years, so why do writers persist in using it?

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NaNoWriMo RE: RE: Planning on doing Script Frenzy but I’ve never done it. Shar

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Right now, seeing how NaNo is over, I’m putting most of my energy into planning for Screnzy. I’m very into my plot for Screnzy, to the point that I’l probably have it written in a few weeks and have to come up with another one for April! LOL!

I’m posting over there on the forums, so, you can ask questions over there, and hopefully I’ll find them.

Unfortunately, though I’ve signed up every year of Script Frenzy, I have yet to actually participate in it. The first year of the contest, a funeral took up every free minute of my entire summer. The second year, a flood swept through leaving us without a place to live and my dad in a coma. The third year, nothing got in the way, but than come June, me and some several hundred other Screnzy members got a shock when we arrived at the Screnzy site to find that Script Frenzy had changed their date from June to April and not one of us had received an email telling us of the date change, apparently some sort of an error had caused about half of the emails to not get delivered. :(

*sigh* It’s always something. Oh well. I never let that stop me from writing scripts. I write scripts any ways, and have for, I don’t know 20 or so years now. I think I wrote my first script in 1981, or there abouts, so yeah, it’s not too big a deal for me to miss Screnzy, writing wise, but socially wise, I like the whole community comrade feel you get when doing something like NaNo or Screnzy, so I was disappointed to miss it the first few years. :(

My life has changed a lot since than however. Since than I have lost my job and become a full time writer instead of a part time writer, which means, come hell or high water (again) I’ll be able to join in any ways, seeing how I’m now free to write any one of the 24 hours of the day or night and don’t have to stick to a work schedule any more.

Another change resulted from my 2008 NaNoWriMo book. I wrote and published my autobiography last year, which, has caused my bishop to threaten to excommunicate me, and resulted in my being disown by more than 200 of my 264 relatives, and has resulted in an end of all my personal friendships, except for one. So, I have A LOT more free time on my hands seeing how I no longer have any friends or family to hang out with and am no longer allowed to go to church meeting s and activities.

In other words, when I started doing NaNo and Screnzy, I had a lot on my plate and not much time to write. But today? No job. No friends. No church. No family. Yep, I has plenty of time to be a full time writer now.

I’m signing up to be the local ML, just as soon as the sign up page goes live once again (am impatiently waiting for that to happen), because Maine only has one ML and she’s like 100 miles north of me! Southern Maine (Greater Portland) is the theater capital of New England, people come from all over the world to train for stage acting here and there are like 4 dozen theaters with in 20 minutes of me. Every body and his uncle has written at least one play and thinks himself a playwright, and yet, we have no ML for Screnzy!!!! I couldn’t believe it when I found that out.

Of course, I also found out that last year was a record breaking year, when the ENTIRE state of Maine had 66 people signed up for Script Frenzy!!! Only 66??? Are you kidding me? 66 people was a record breaker?? WTH? OMG! We definitely need to get the word out about Screnzy, because we got enough locals writing plays to break the world wide membership record not just the local record. *sheesh* why don’t these people think to sign up? I mean, they are writing plays any ways right? I can only assume that they simply have no idea Screnzy exists, otherwise lots more folks would be signed up for it.

So, it is my goal to become the Greater Portland ML and than set out to getting flyers and posters out to all the theaters to get people joining in. Plus, leading the write-ins too. We’ve yet to have a single Screnzy write in here in Southern Maine! Not once in four years! OMG! That has so got to change.

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Okay, so there you have my personal story about me vs Script Frenzy. Let’s move on to the advice stuff.

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You don’t say specifically, what you need advice for, so I’ll just ramble on generally, about various bits of script writing advice and, heck, maybe some thing will be useful for you! =P I write for small stage (school/college/local) and for comic books (Disney) so, my own script writing style leans heavy in those areas.

First off, a lot depends on the type of script you are writing. Not all scripts are created equal. The basic types of scripts are:

    Movie Scripts

    TV Scripts

    Radio Scripts: DJ/Talk Show, News Broadcast, or Live Show/Play

    News Report Scripts

    Animation Scripts

    Talk Show Scripts

    Musical Scripts

    Stage Play Scripts

    Advertisement Scripts

    Comic Book Scripts

Each of those is different and each is written in it’s own unique formate and style, and depending on the one you plan to write, you’ll will have to use a completely different style and format. So a person who writes movie scripts may be lost when it comes to attempting to write a comic book script or vise versa.

So, the first thing you need to figure out is: What type of script do you want to write?

To answer that, ask yourself, where do you see your script being published? Here are so things to think about before starting your script:

    Will it be a meteorologist’s report on the latest storm read on the nightly news or will it be the next episode of Pokemon?

    Are you writing hoping to be accepted by BBC for the next season of Doctor Who or are you writing a play for your local collage drama troupe?

    Do you want to write the words Oprah will say in her next show or would you rather write the next episode of Days of Our Lives?

    Are you writing a script for The Price is Right or are you going to write the next big screen movie Johnny Depp will star in?

    Is your script the next Broadway hit or a modern day remake of the Orson Wells War of the Worlds Radio Broadcast?

    Are you writing the next local cable advertisement of Jolly John’s Used Cars or the national broadcast of McDonald’s new flavor milk shake?

    Do you want to write a comic book? If so, will it be for Marvel or DC or Dark Horse or Disney? Did you know that each of the four comic book giants has their own specified script format, each extremely different from the other three and that none will look at an incorrectly formated script no matter how well written?

Before you can start asking for advice on how to write and format your script, you first have to determine, what exactly your script is going to be, and than you need to direct your questions to a script writer who writes the same type of scripts you plan to write.

For Script Frenzy, it is safe to assume that you are planing either a movie, tv show, comic book, or stage play script, as 99% of the scripts written during Screnzy are one of those.

The first thing you need to remember during Script Frenzy is this: Dialog.

Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog.
Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog.
Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog.
Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog. Dialog.

and oh, look at that . . . more dialog!

If you are not good at writing dialog, than you will have a tough time at script writing, because script writing it straight up, no stop dialog.

There is no prose in script writing.

There is no narration in script writing.

There are no long descriptions of scenery in script writing.

There is no pretty and plentiful purple prose in script writing.

Script writing is dialog. Only dialog. Nothing but dialog. Dialog and nothing else. Period.

Script writing will do wonders at teaching you how to cut out adjectives, adverbs, prepositions, and pretty much every thing else you would use when writing a novel, as you won’t be using those much if you use any at all.

The basic general format of a script is this:

    DAVE:
    (walks into room)

    MARSHA! What are you doing here?

    MARSHA:
    (slaps DAVE on face)

    I know about you and that hussy.

    (throws wedding ring on floor)

    We are through! I want a divorce!

    :CAMERA: Close up on DAVE’s face.

    DAVE:
    (stares speechlessly)

And that’s about it. A stage or radio script wouldn’t have the camera focus points, but TV, movie, and comic book scripts all do. I’m going to quote something I posted a while back on Script Frenzy:

    How much stage direction is reasonable?

    [quote=]
    Hey guys!
    How much stage direction do you think is reasonable? I’m just trying to figure out what would be too much…
    Thanks![/quote]

    I’d say it depends on the play write’s personal style as well as the style of the play in question. I think of stage direction in a play, like the choreography in a ballet. If every player knows where to be when and what to do at what moment, than you don’t have characters falling over each other and messing up the play.

    For example a one person play may not need any directions at all, simply relying fully on the actor’s personal movements as he speaks. With only one or two actors on stage, the play would be more open to actor interpretation. Two actors could guess each others movements and act accordingly.

    Whereas a full two hour production with intricate (setting, lighting, costume, etc) details, and 20 or 30 actors on stage at the same time, would need quite a bit of stage direction to prevent it from turning into utter chaos. I mean, if you have 20 actors on stage, each one “doing his own thing” when it comes to interpretation, you’d have nothing but a huge uncoordinated mess.

    So, when I’m writing a play, my personal style is: the bigger the production, the more detailed the stage directions need to be, while the smaller production can go with little or even no stage directions.

Also, scripts are very fast moving and high paced. There is no stopping to look at the flowers and talk about sunsets. It’s Action, action, actions, constantly moving forward, never pausing for a moment.

And I’m going to quote something I posted a few weeks ago here on NaNoWriMo, because while it aplies to novel writing, it really, really, REALLY hits home big time with Script writing:

    If you look at a lot of the bestsellers out there, and start counting words, you will find most have seven words or less per sentence!

    OR

    Take a look at the bestsellers. Count the words per sentence. Most have seven words or less.

Notice how one long sentence became three? But both gave the same advice. The first sentence was confusing to read. It slows the reader down. The second set was easier to digest. The reader could read it faster.

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You want fast pace? Try this: Dialog, Dialog, Dialog, BAM, Narrative, Dialog, Dialog, Dialog

Uh-huh, yep, that’s right. The fastest way to pick up the pace and speed up the action is to let your characters talk and talk and talk and talk. Not one character monologing his fool head off. Get four or five characters in the scene and have them speaking one sentence at a time, back and forth.

[quote=Genuine]I swear I could write straight dialogue for hours, but here’s what my writing looks like. I have lots of dialogue, and giant paragraphs here or there. It’s the talking head syndrome. And it is not good when my characters feel like they’re talking inside a Giant White Room of Nothingness! Here’s an example

The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing.

Person1: Blah, blah, bler, fleeble

Person2: BLAH? Dooble!

Person1: Dooble, dooble, dooble.

Person2: Tubbyblubby flur

Person1: Fla, fla, flah

Person1: Blah, blah, bler, fleeble

Person2: BLAH? Dooble!

Person1: Dooble, dooble, dooble.

Person2: Tubbyblubby flur

Person1: Fla, fla, flah

The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing. The sun swept radiant rays of burblebobble across the quaint scene of XYZ, and the clouds burst into fleecing.
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LOL! What a great post! It was like reading Keith Laumer’s Retief series!

Though I write short stories and novels as well, my main writing base is comics. I’m used to reading and writing comics. In other words I am used to write straight dialog, and nothing but dialog. I can write dialog for hours on end. Have characters chatting away, verbalizing everything that they are seeing, hearing, doing, and thinking.

It’s all that straight up dialog that causes comic books to be such fast paced stories.

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[quote=Banespawn]Don’t stop to descibe things. Make the descriptions part of the action.[/quote]

Yep. I say this all the time too.

You could say:

    He walked past the tree.

I’d say:

    He walked past the willow tree.

I only added one little word. That’s it. But it changed the whole picture in the readers head. Nothing big. Just little things. Of course I could also say:

    He walked past the giant, green, weeping willow tree were Billy carved his name way back in 2056.

But that is just too long and wordy, and adds details that do not move the story forward.

Keep it short, keep it simple, keep it familiar, let the reader interpret the minor details themselves, and you’ll write a book that’s easy to read and seems familar to your readers, even if it’s a fictional world lightyears from the earth.

I sit here thinking about the beautiful purple sunsets sending rays of light across the green grassy hills and listening to the sound of pretty blue feathered song birds as they sing their songs of . . . YAWN . . . .

So when is the story going to start? Or when are we going to get back to the characters? Or, you know, when are we going to do something, ANYTHING? A few phrases of flowery descriptions scattered in here and there between dialog is fine, but when you start writing page after page after page of descriptions, I start falling asleep.

There should be dialog on every page. More than 50% (maybe even 75%) of your book should be dialog.(Ask any editor or publisher what makes a bestseller a best seller and they’ll tell you it’s all about the dialog). The remaining should be largely action.

You can tell me that on your planet the trees are blue, but don’t tell me the entire biology lesson on the hows and why of the tree being blue. So it’s blue. That great! Now get on with the action. What else is the character doing besides noticing that the trees are blue? Is there someone hiding behind the blue tree? Why did the character tell me the tree was blue? Why purpose does the blue tree have in your plot? I’m not a botanist, I don’t need to know what every plant on your planet looks like and why it looks that way – all I care about is what your MC is doing.

Less prose – more action.

Less prose – more dialog.

Give me a fast read, don’t slow me down with flowery purple prose.

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But than: What about fight scenes? you ask. Well, what about them? Have you ever seen a REAL fight? A real fight only lasts a few seconds. You’d be hard pressed to find a real fight that lasted longer than 30 seconds. What you see in the movies? That’s just for effect. A real fight is never anything like what you see in the movies.

    A punch. A whack. A quick shuffle in the mud. And than it’s over.

I figure it should take the reader no more than 5 seconds to read the fight. Thus my fight scenes tend to be quick and short. Heck, you just read one of them!

What about epic battles for fantasy or military fiction? Regardless of how many people are fighting, (even if it’s a big battle) I pick out only two fighters, and focus on them. I describe the actual action between the two fighters, focusing more on the inner emotional responce of the one that is loseing, (even if they are not a MC) thus makeing the winning fighter seem much more feirce. Usually I focus more on the pain from the blow, than the actual blow itself.

Generally my fight scenes are less than three paragraphs long. I use short sentences (most less than seven words each, often only 2 words each). I use simple small words. I let it flow past the reader quickly, giving them the illusion that they are being pulled through the action at the same break neck speed in which the action takes place.

[quote=Esteleth]
They could hear the evidence of a struggle downstairs: shuffling then running footfalls, a chase, a muffled scream, the pushing around of furniture, the breaking of a vase, thuds, curses, their mother’s voice rising up in a shrill teary scream…[/quote]

Actually, this would read faster if you had done this:

    They could hear the struggle downstairs. The shuffling. The footfalls. The chase. A muffled scream. The furniture pushed aside. A vase breaking. THUD! CRASH! Some one cursed. Their mother’s voice rose up. A shrill scream . . .

Long run on sentences always slow the readers down. Every time you put a comma some where, go back and see if you can change in into a period.

Also, you are using way to many prepositions. In an action scene the fewer prepositions, the better. None is best. Prepositions slow the pace. Cut them out whenever possible.

Take this writer’s advice to heart:
[quote=havocfett]Write short. Write Choppy. Write dynamic. Don’t stay on one thing. Move quickly through the scene.[/quote]

Short and choppy wins the race when it comes to action and fast pace. Don’t be afraid of fragments. Forget your English teacher. Fragments are your friend. Slice and dice every run on sentence. Turn as many comas as possible into periods.

But remember – only do this for you fast paced action scenes. You don’t want a book of nothing but short and choppy! Your descriptions scenes should have longer sentences, that tire your reader out and make them want to stop and take a deep breath. (But not so many that you put them to sleep!)

You want to mix it up and keep things interesting. Like a roller coaster, your plot should have slow moving ups, and fast moving downs, back and forth through out the entire book.

[quote=wynnie.the.poooh]
3. If it’s a killing spree, kill people. Mention them, their side in the battle and then BLAM!
4. Use a lot of action sounds. BLAM! makes you think of a firing gun. SPLAT! makes you think of something hitting the ground. With a splat. This is actually a phenomenon (the use of words as nouns that sound like the sound they are naming).[/quote]

    BLAM! SPLAT! SOCK! PUNCH!

    Holy Rusted Drain Pipes, Batman, it’s the Penguin!

    BAM! THUD! SQUISH! BOOM!

    Great Scott, Batman! You got him!

Yep, take a cue from Batman – Single word action sentences will move your story along much faster than 10 pages of description ever could!

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And here’s something that I don’t see any one mentioning yet, but when you start preaching and lecturing and pushing a cause, it really slows down your pace a lot. The last thing any author wants to hear from their readers is: I’m Not Stupid – Don’t Talk Down To Me and Preach at Me!

In other words:

Don’t waste an entire chapter telling me why lions live in Africa and Tigers live in China. If I wanted to know that, I’d have looked for it on Wikipedia.

Don’t spend 3 pages telling me the symptoms of cancer. Tell me your MC has cancer and move on to how she deals with it. If I want to know the symptoms and details of treatment, I’ll read a medical journal.

Okay, so maybe I don’t know where Yorkshireville Town is. If I want to know, I’ll look it up on Google Earth, I don’t need you to give detailed directions. I’m not planning on a trip there, I just want to read your novel.

Remember that you are writing a story not a dictionary. You are writing a story not a medical journal. You are writing a story not a travel guide. You are writing a story. Stop explaining every thing to me and just tell the story! Don’t act like I’m a retard and stop the story to explain everything. I’m smarter than you think. I know what you mean, and if I don’t know, I know how to look it up and find out for myself. Just stick with the story and nothing but the story. Stop talking down to me like I’m a little kid who don’t know nothing!

You got a chip on your shoulder? You got a cause to promote? You got an issue to protest? You want to save my soul from hell by getting me to join your church? Write a pamphlet and hand it out on the streets – build a web site – start a blog – do something to tell people about it, but don’t take it out on me your reader! Sure, maybe I will agree with you, maybe I’ll want to support your cause too, but there is a right way and a wrong way to get supporters, and strategically lacing your novel with preaching and lectures is the WRONG way to do it! Just stick with the story and nothing but the story. Stop preaching to me like I’m the enemy!

By removing every thing from your writing that makes it sound like a dictionary, encyclopedia, or church manual, you will do wonders to speed up the pace.

Well, that should give you enough pointers to get you started in the planning stages at least. I hope some of what I said helped you out. Good luck!

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Screnzy RE: Script Frenzy seeks writers’ advice: I want to know what questions you would like answered.

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Script Frenzy seeks writers’ advice: I want to know what questions you would like answered.

Script Frenzy

Script Frenzy Scriptwriters! Every year I try to find professionals to help answer how-to questions during the month of April (they are called Cameos on the website) and I want to know what questions you would like answered. Post your questions in the comments below!

Yesterday at 7:24pm · Comment · 

Kristin B.
Kristin B.
My question would be thusly – I always hear in commentaries of movies about how the script is continually changing. Does that ever annoy the script writer, knowing his original work was changed?
Yesterday at 7:30pm · Report
Sean Newman
Sean Newman
How can I avoid the inevitable pitfall of clichés?
Yesterday at 7:35pm · Report
Patrick Bowen
Patrick Bowen
How do I write the ultimate “gotchya plot”? A la Usual Suspects, 6th Sense, etc.
Yesterday at 7:52pm · Report
Jennifer Thrailkill Leonard
Jennifer Thrailkill Leonard
If I wanted to write a musical, is it alright to write the music and lyrics before April?
Yesterday at 7:59pm · Report
Mark Searles
Mark Searles
How do you write action sequences? You’re not supposed to have much direction in the script, but just saying “they fight” is not very descriptive (and doesn’t take up much page space!).
Yesterday at 8:46pm · Report
Christiana Griscom
Christiana Griscom
I wouldn’t mind some more in depth info on camera directions and so on. I never really bother, but I’ve been told that then it’s not a ‘real’ script and I’m just curious about it all. :D
Yesterday at 8:56pm · Report
Hannah Glenn
Hannah Glenn
How much do script writers get paid, & how long does it usually take them to write a script? How do people turn a book into a script for a movie?
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EelKat Wendy C. Allen
EelKat Wendy C. Allen
I always see questions and answers geared towards movie scripts, which I don’t write. Sure the info is helpful, but it’s focusing on getting your script filmed!

I write stage plays for live theater, not big Broadway theater, but small, local grade school/high school/college theater. You know, for the young actors who are just getting started in their acting career. My scripts tend to be short for half hour to hour long school/college plays with less than 7 characters.

Screnzy for me is not one 100 page script but ten 10 page scripts. Short, quick, with minimal setting and costume, and with only a few actors.

So, I’d like to see more advise being written for those of us who focus on writing stuff for a younger age group, as well as for those of us writing for the little indie stage groups.

As for questions, I could really use some advice on how to get my play scripts actually staged. I love writing them and really have no problems in the actual writing aspect, but the whole promotion, marketing, and getting my scripts to the right people – I could really use some advice in those areas.

My biggest area in need of help/advice, is I want to go the published rout. Publish the play than let schools and indie stage groups buy it, but than, How do I get paid for the actual performances? I’m so confused in that area. Is the book price the only pay I should be getting or should I get a % of the ticket price and if so, how do I go about charging it? I could really use some advice in the whole area of getting paid for productions of my plays.

Sorry for the long post, but yeah, any advice in these areas would be really helpful. Can’t wait for April to get here. :)

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I always see questions and answers geared towards movie scripts, which I don’t write. Sure the info is helpful, but it’s focusing on getting your script filmed!

I write stage plays for live theater, not big Broadway theater, but small, local grade school/high school/college theater. You know, for the young actors who are just getting started in their acting career. My scripts tend to be short for half hour to hour long school/college plays with less than 7 characters.

Screnzy for me is not one 100 page script but ten 10 page scripts. Short, quick, with minimal setting and costume, and with only a few actors.

So, I’d like to see more advise being written for those of us who focus on writing stuff for a younger age group, as well as for those of us writing for the little indie stage groups.

As for questions, I could really use some advice on how to get my play scripts actually staged. I love writing them and really have no problems in the actual writing aspect, but the whole promotion, marketing, and getting my scripts to the right people – I could really use some advice in those areas.

My biggest area in need of help/advice, is I want to go the published rout. Publish the play than let schools and indie stage groups buy it, but than, How do I get paid for the actual performances? I’m so confused in that area. Is the book price the only pay I should be getting or should I get a % of the ticket price and if so, how do I go about charging it? I could really use some advice in the whole area of getting paid for productions of my plays.

Sorry for the long post, but yeah, any advice in these areas would be really helpful. Can’t wait for April to get here. :)

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NaNoWriMo RE: What Fish Could You, uh, Fish for in the East Coast?

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What Fish Could You, uh, Fish for in the East Coast?




[quote=Bootscooper]In the East Coat, around the tri-state area, what edible fish could you get to eat?


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Tri-state – my homeland :) And me living right on the ocean, I’m surrounded by rifle toting lobster man, and get to see the lobster war shoot outs all the time. Fishing is our # one source of income, and it’s big business. If you are not a fishermen, you are related to one, married to one, work for one, or at least know some one who does. Maine is 73% water and has the longest coastline of any other state. Yeah. Every one around here has fish on the brain.

You didn’t say what type of fishing you plan on using so I’ll list both:

Off the coast/deep sea:

    Lobster is #1 (the #3 source of income in Maine, after Tourism and Blueberries. Potatoes and Milk are 4 and 5.) Marlin Shrimp Sea bass Atlantic Salmon Pollack Sea Urchins Halibut Flounder Eels (big ones) Skate (what we call Sting Rays) Octopus Squid Manta Rays (big ones – big, big, big ones – 8 foot wings are not uncommon) folks don’ fish for them, but once in a while one will get caught in a net. People don’t eat them, btw. Shark (lots of types, Sand, Nurse, etc, keep in mind though the Great Whites are extremely rare, so you can mention them, but it would be a fluke to see one around here) Humpback Whales, if your story is set before the anti whaling laws. Whaling was a big business around here in the 1700′s ish. and also Scallops, Clams, Mussel, Crab, and several assorted snails but technically that’s not called “fishing” it’s called “digging”. Also, we are in the “Man o War” region. Man o Wars are giant killer jelly fish, that can get 30 feet long. In warm summers they get washed in along the coast, by the gulf stream. People don’t fish for them, but fisherman do once in a while get killed by them. Areas have to be closed down if any Man o War are sighted, and wait until they head back out to sea again. This only happens once every few years though, and is not that common an event.

Inland – river/lake/pond/stream:

    Eels (small ones) Brown Trout Rainbow Trout Catfish Salmon

Sorry, afraid I don’t know many inland fish, I live right on the ocean and rarely leave town.

I’m afraid I can’t help you with any details or specifics. Ive never been fishing in my whole life! LOL! My boyfriend is a hobby fisherman and my neighbor is a lobster men (every one’s neighbor is a lobster man around here.) and these are the fish they commonly catch and or mention seeing, or have known others to catch. They are the ones I just always hear getting mentioned around town and such.

Also, Harbor Seals are every where, and commonly get caught by mistake, and have to be released. But if your story is set old enough, like before the 1950′s, fisherman used to shot every seal they saw on sight, hundreds and hundreds of them, because the seal attack the nets and traps and lines and steal the fish.

Pretty much every one eats fish, most every meal, every day of the year.

Here in town we have fishing shacks on every street corner. A fishing shack is like a dinner that is run by the wife of some local fisherman, and all they serve is fresh fish. The Clam Bake, Bailey’s, WormWoods, and Ken’s Place are the biggest ones, and attract tourists from all over the world. The Clam Bake is a giant restaurant now as a result.

Hey – why don’t you just read what they sell off their menu? Or ask them on their FaceBook page? Plus all those actual picture of what the stuff looks like cooked should give you plenty to work with. That should help you out:

http://www.clambakerestaurant.com/ or http://www.clambakerestaurant.com/dinners.shtml

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Scarborough-ME/Kens-Place-Seafood-Restaurant/64297093127?v=info (2009 was their 82nd year in business)

These two are right across the street from each other (more or less) and I live right behind them on the beach. :)

and this one is right next door to Ken’s

http://bayleysseafood.com/ and is the one I personally like to eat at most often. I like their Seafood Platter, which is a little bit of everything that got brought in that morning. Usually it includes Haddock fillets, scallops, shrimp, clam strips, etc.

and they make the best Lobster Rolls in Maine. You can’t visit Maine with out trying a Lobster Roll and drinking Moxie.

and here’s one from Portland:

http://www.portlandlobstercompany.com/menu.html

and Moxie btw is this:

http://www.moxiefestival.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie

your Maine readers will think your Maine characters are weird if they are NOT drinking Moxie.

You know, you might want to head to the Maine Regional Forums and ask there. Some one might have more info for you.

And writing this list up for you . . . wow! You just gave me some great ideas to add to my story, which, happens to be set in a fishing villsge off the coast of Maine – couldn’t imaging why. ;) =P

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NaNoWriMo RE: Who publishes?

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The question and my answer:

Who publishes?

[quote=Esmeralda_m]Do any of you go on to publish your books later? [/quote]

Always. I started writing short stories in 1978. All of them published via indie-press chapbooks. Though most never had more than 12 or 15 copies made. =P I moved on the adding novels in 2006, and started writing non-fiction stuff in 2003, but didn’t start pubbing the non-fiction stuff until 2007, which I publish both in print format and online.

[quote=Esmeralda_m] Do you self publish or go through a company? [/quote]

Both. It depends on how you look at it. Some would say I self publish, others would say I don’t. Explanation: I own a publishing house (The Twighlight Manor Press). I publish my own work through said publishing house. Therefor my work is being published via a company, but it is also self published because, I just happen to be the owner of that company. =P

I submit some of my work to the big publishing houses too (Harlequin, Scholastic, etc.) but not very often. Usually I just stick with my own publishing house.

I also am under a work-for-hire contract to write scripts for copyrighted characters (The Duck Family aka Donald Duck and Scrooge McDuck) through Edgmont (Disney Comics). This means technically I work for Disney and can write Disney “fanfic” so long as I follow Disney’s really rigid super strict guidelines and send every thing I write to them.

[quote=Esmeralda_m] Has anybody considered it but not followed through? Why not?[/quote]

I always consider EVERY THING I write as publishable. My theory is there is a market for every thing and every thing that is written, can be edited to make it marketable. (Some stuff just needs more editing than other stuff.) With that thery in mind, every thing I write eventually gets published some where, some how, though in some cases it may take several years of editing to make a piece publishable.

[quote=Esmeralda_m] I’m curious what the statistics are. Who goes “further” than the 30 days of writing and does a 2nd, 3rd, and final draft? Who takes that to a publisher and says “Lookit what I got!” and either gets turned down or accepted. Who opts to Lulu their book, and who takes it to the copy machine at kinkoes. [/quote]

My stuff usually goes through 4 edits, before reaching the final draft. This process can take a few weeks for shorter works, to a year or more for longer works.

Where I send it and how it gets published depends on what it is I wrote.

I taught myself bookbinding and so from the 1970′s through 1980′s my books were hand bound. Papers hand cut. Pages hand sewn, with olde fashioned needle and thread book binding stitch. The words themselves hand done in calligraphy. That’s why there were usually less than 15 copies of each book. It took about a month just to make a single copy. I was like a 15th century monk or something! LOL! =P

I went the desk top printer road in the 1990′s. Quality sucked.

Tried a local print shop once. eeh. Quality still sucked.

In 2005 I switched over to using http://www.LuLu.com for my publishing house’s printer. Quality has skyrocketed. I love it, and will likely stick with them as my printing house from now on.

As for where do I send stuff when I do send it out to an outside publisher?

Well, right off the bat, EVERYTHING I write with a Disney character, gets shipped to Edgmont and from there it’s Disney’s problem. Getting published with Disney, let me tell you – NOT EASY! Pay sucks. It’s not worth it unless you are mega super obsessed with whatever character you are writing about, which I am, so it’s not like I’m going to stop writing Duck stories any time soon. =P

My Harlequin quality stuff gets shipped off to Harlequin for consideration.

Short stories head out to various random magazines depending on genre.

My unagented attempts with Scholastic continue to fail; yeah, I know, I need an agent for Scholastic. Someday when I can afford an agent, I’ll hire one. ;)

What I am most well known for however is my trademark long running, banned, M rated series. My Twighlight Manor series, has since the 1970′s been sent to various publishers, and I get back lots of nice rejections, telling me that my unique writing style is wonderful and they’d really love me to write a different book for them, but my subject matter is just too outside of what can be published main stream, could I tone it done a bit, try to be a little bit more politically correct, use a little less gore, make my teenage rape victims over 18, make my rapists not always elderly men, and could you TRY to write a Happily Ever After ending . . . just once? Hey! I write what I know. Older men rape teenage and preteen girls. Been there. Done that. I was the teenage girl. I’ve known others. It happens. It happens a lot. These girls don’t get peach scent happily ever afters with rose colored glasses. I write about it. I write about it a lot. I write it like it is in the real world, older men, 8 year old girls and all. I’m not going to glamorize it and make it into some pretty happy romance story because that’s what people want to read. This is not romance, this is a girl traumatized for life in a world that would rather look the other way and protect the false integrity of their beloved church leaders. You know what? Life for these girls is hell, in a world that doesn’t care, why should I tone it down and make it more digestible for the reader when it isn’t digestible for the real victims? No! I won’t do it. Some one has to speak out for these girls, and I’m not changing these books just because you don’t like it.

And so, my Twighlight Manor Books, continue on published via indie press and remain to date, still not mass produced. And I am being excommunicated from my church for writing them, because well, it’s a big No-No to say anything against one of their priests. :(

Actually, I’m being excommunicated for writing my autobiography, the 433 page story behind the story of the Twighlight Manor books. My autobiography was what I wrote for NaNoWriMo 2008. It took a year to edit, went through 4 drafts, and was edited online with the help of some of my online friends. The draft had been posted on my blog, which, unknown to me, my bishop reads, and when he read what I had to say about several of the leaders in our local church building, he just flipped out, and called me into his office and DEMANDED that I not publish this book or else. Or else? He’d rather hide his head in the sand and protect the criminals in his church, than stand out in the open and protect the innocent victims????? Well, that book got published a month ago, and so I got called in again and told I was being excommunicated from the church. Oh well. Such is life. My NaNovel 2008 has become some what of a local controversy, and really, I don’t see why my bishop is going all freak out like this, but whatever.

As for this years NaNovel, yep. It’s being published. At the moment I’m planning on going through my own publishing house. (Which currently PODs books via http://www.LuLu.com btw, no more hand bound books for me! LOL!)

[quote=Esmeralda_m] I’m just kinda curious since I’m thinking of persuing more than a one month fling with my characters. I have a professional artist, willing to do the cover, and a professional editor even, but I’m intimidated by the prospect of tranforming a nanobook into a “real” novel. Can a nano even BE a real novel?

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Every year, about 3 or 4 NaNovels get accepted through Harlequin. They even have a place to submit special NaNoWriMo submissions to them. (Check out their web site, info changes each year). If you are writing romance, Harlequin is very open to reading NaNovels.

and one word: Eragon.

Look up the Hal Spacejock series. Long running series of best sellers, every volume was writing right here on NaNoWriMo

Every year hundreds of NaNovels get published. A few through mainstream big publishers, but most through small press, indie press, and self published POD (LuLu and CreateSpace).

So, yeah, a NaNovel can be a real novel. All you got to do it edit, edit, edit, polish, polish, polish, and submit, submit, submit! EVERY THING you write, can be published, it’s all in the amount of time you are willing to put into editing it after you write it.

There are probably a lot more mainstream published NaNovels out there than we realize too, because a lot of authors, don’t tell you here on NaNoWriMo who they are and just come on here, write their draft, and never tell any one they wrote it via NaNo. Besides, when you submit it to a publisher, there is no reason to tell the publisher where your wrote the book. The publisher couldn’t care less wither you wrote it on NaNoWriMo or in an igloo on top of Mt Everest. All they want to know, is will our readers want to read it?

You will only need a cover artist if you plan to self publish. Authors have no say or control when it comes to cover art on their books, unless they are self publishing the book.

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NaNoWriMo RE: Hi I am… and I tend to write a lot of…

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I like this writing exercise. It helps you to focus on what you write and what you need to work on, as well as helps you to see what your “style is”. The entire original post is very very long, so you’ll need to click on the link to read the whole thing, as I only quoted the very start of it, so you’d know what I was responding to.

Hi I am… and I tend to write a lot of…

[quote=Kimberly Dawn]

Move at will… but I think this is on topic…

I’m not sure how to get out of the rut of these principle scenes I tend to write tons of. But I thought if I shared what I tend to write a lot of, someone else out there will have another crux and I can try to bum off of them their weakness for writing those scenes and we can help each other…

I tend to write a lot of pet scenes. This has to do with dogs, snakes, whatever pet is on hand. Don’t have a pet I make up one. Dogs are the most useful for me, but I take horses, dragons, etc.

Lots of scenes on food. Almost every book I’ve written has ….READ MORE… [/quote]

And here is my answer about my own writing:

The weather – lots of it. Wind. Fog. Rain. Thunder. Lightening. Hurricanes. Blizzards. I’m really good at lengthy (2000 words or more) descriptions of weather related things. Tonight I just wrote a 2k scene where my MC gets caught walking during a thunder storm, I spent most of the 2k describing the black clouds and lightening bolts! LOL! And even when I’m not writing long descriptions of weather, the weather is there: wind in her hair, wind in the trees, she can smell the fog, he hears the rain on the roof etc, etc, etc. Boy, I should have been a meteorologist or something. I’d be good at writing weather reports for the meteorologists to read on TV! LOL!

Aghasty men who brood about dead wives, and usually have dead wife’s coffin in his bedroom or dining room or some place else in the house so he can sit there staring at it and going all Vincent Price/Edgar Alan Poe monologuing about death and eternity and soul mates and lost love. Yep, I was raised on Vincent Price movies and Edgar Alan Poe books, one look at any thing I write will tell you that in a flash.

Monologuing. BIG TIME! My MCs are prone to sitting themselves down and than talking to themselves about the way things are, the way things should have been, and how cruel and wicked life has been to them. I can make one of my male MC’s drone on like that for 9k words without stopping to take a breath!

The ocean. It’s always there. My characters can’t get away from it. They are drawn too it. Mesmerized by it. Often I have mermen, guys who’s dead wife was a mermaid, silkies, kelpies, eels, and all sorts of other real and mythical sea creatures in my stories. I have writing hundreds of stories over the years and every single one of them was set on a beach, in a cove, on the cliffs, on a ship, under the sea, etc. Always the ocean is there. The ocean is so in your face in every thing I write, that it is almost a character itself.

Pretty much everything I write has a big gloomy stone house overlooking the ocean, owned by a broody goth guy morning a dead wife, and there are lots of dark gloomy clouds and thunder storms rolling in off the ocean. It’s like everything I write, no matter what the story is, that is the basic setting or backdrop for the story.

I did grow up on the shores of the cold, stormy North Atlantic Ocean, and being farmers weather effected our lives a lot, and Vincent Price was my fave actor and Edgar Alan Poe was my fave author, so, yeah, I guess you could say I’m one of those people who writes what I know. =P

Most of that stuff, isn’t all that bad, seeing how I write creepy goth horror, and those things all fit in with the genre well. I do have one problem that I get stuck on real bad, and it is that I write like this:

Dialog, dialog, dialog, MC sits alone and monologues to self for 30 pages, dialog, dialog, dialog, dialog, BOOM! CRASH! BANG! (weather), looooooooooooooooooooong pointless narrative about haunted house-ocean-weather, MC sits alone and monologues to self once again while hallucinating about ghost of dead wife haunting him, dialog, dialog, dialog, dialog, dialog . . .

Yeah. All that dialog is my problem. I’ll have two characters start talking, back and forth – for 100 pages. Not a word of narrative, not even any “he said/she said” tags! Just straight dialog. It’s like reading a play. The only time they stop talking about the MC is when the MC starts monologuing to himself.

It’s not that I can’t write descriptive narrative. I can. I’m wicked good at it too. My problem is shutting up my characters long enough so that I can add some narratives between all that dialogging!

And than there’s one other problem. Sex. Smut. Erotica. When I finally do get my characters to shut up, they all jump into bed together. Usually every one of them all together all at once too. Except for the gloomy MC with the dead wife. Gloomy guy + dead wife – yep necrophiliac, got a lot of that in many of my stories, LOTS of it. I had one guy who was a necrophiliac first gloomy widower later, and ended up with 70 dead wives in his attic, just so he could have sex with a different wife each night. My gloomy guys usually should be in a metal institute, but live so far off in the middle of no where (on a cliff over looking the ocean. . . . the middle of no where is always over looking the ocean no matter where it is.) that no body knows they are out there doing the weird freaky things they are doing while they mourn dead wife. If I could keep the sex scenes a little less freaky deaky, I would have a lot more mass produces books and a lot less indie press books. =P

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NaNoWriMo – Found My Plot – Need a Title

What is my title and how did I find it? I haven’t decided on mine yet. I haven’t even decided on my novel’s title yet, let alone the chapter titles! yet. Right now all I’ve got is “NaNoWriMo Day One”; “NaNoWriMo Day Two”; etc.

I like to pick out my novel title before my chapter titles, so they’ll “match”. On my profile page it says “Bela Lugosi Fan-Fic” and on my banner in my siggie it says “Dracula Lives Next Door”, but neither is the title of my novel.

As stated in my profile title my story is about Bela Lugosi, who 60 years after his death, has moved into an abandoned house next door to 3 kids, only he’s using the name from one of his movies: Dr Laouse. Dr. Laouse was a character who in the movie turned out to be Dracula masquerading as a mad scientist. The kids, now suspect that Dr Laouse, is in fact the actor Bela Lugosi, and that he’s not dead, because he really is the real Dracula, thus explaining why he could play the part so well in the movies.

Anyways, as of yet, it is untitled, because while I’m good at coming up with this whole idea, I’ve yet to think of what to call it. I made a banner for it last night (which is the one in my sig) and when I got to the point of adding a title, I panicked and wrote the first thing I could think of, which as it turned out was “Dracula Lives Next Door”, which is pretty lame, but for the sake of NaNoWriMo serves the goal of telling what the book is about.

Eventually, at some point while I’m writing, one of the characters will say something and I’ll scream – That’s it! That’s my novel’s title! And than I’ll have to change my banner again, but so far I’m without a title.

Any ideas about what I should call it?

Usually when I’m naming chapters I’ll take a phrase out of the chapter itself and use it for the title. As a general rule, I don’t even start thinking about chapters until AFTER I’ve finished the first draft. Than creating titles becomes part of the editing process.

All Hail Bela Lugosi!
Dracula!

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Editing and Drafts
Create a Fantasy Realm
Advice For NaNoWriters!
Creating Character Profiles
Are You A Renegade A Writer?
How To Become a Better Writer
The Top 5 Tools For NaNoWriMo
What Genre Is My Vampire Story?
Where Do You Get Your Ideas?
Improving your writing with what you read.
Have You Written Your Author’s Interview Yet?
How I Reached 50,000 in 30 Days and You Can Too!
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Grade School Series? (NaNoWriMo NaNoRebels)

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Well, now that I’ve started writing, I know where my story is going, and surprisingly it’s heading in a way I did not expect at all! It has become a series of Grade School Chapter Books! (70 page books for kids ages 8 – 13) The way I figure, it’ll end up being four separate books each about 13k words long (a total of about 52k more or less).

I just checked out a bunch of grade school chapter books from the library and did a run down of word counts, and found that most of them are between 11k to 15k each, (65 – 90 pages) so my 13k figure will fit in nicely.

So, I guess that makes me a NaNoRebel because instead of writing one 50k novel I’m writing four 13k grade school “mini-novel” books.

Any one else here planning a set of grade school chapter books this year, instead on one bigger novel?

All Hail Bela Lugosi!
Dracula!
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Editing and Drafts
Create a Fantasy Realm
Advice For NaNoWriters!
Creating Character Profiles
Are You A Renegade A Writer?
How To Become a Better Writer
The Top 5 Tools For NaNoWriMo
What Genre Is My Vampire Story?
Where Do You Get Your Ideas?
Improving your writing with what you read.
Have You Written Your Author’s Interview Yet?
How I Reached 50,000 in 30 Days and You Can Too!
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How do you scare a vampire? What would scare a guy that was already dead?

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I have just run up against a problem that I could use some help on. One of my characters, just said this:

“What a minute. Okay, let’s think about this situation we have here. So, this guy is a vampire, right? We know that. That means he can’t die, because he’s already dead. You can’t kill a vampire, you can only scare them off and keep them at bay and make them so scared of you that they’ll never bother you again. Right? Am I right? So, if you can’t die, what do you fear? I mean, how do you scare a vampire?”

Okay. Here’s the thing. In my world, the undead are exactly that – the undead. They are already dead and therefor can not die once again. The only way to get rid of a vampire is the scare them off, because you can not kill something that is already dead. So, here’s my question: How do you scare a vampire? If you had vampires in your town, and you couldn’t kill them off by the traditional methods (stake through the heart, decapitation, etc) because you already tried that and found out those things don’t work because these guys are already dead and can’t be killed again – what would you do? How would you scare them into leaving your town alone? What would scare a guy that was already dead?

EDIT –
I’ve got answers coming in from NaNo – I’ll copy them to here:


[quote=RoswellianMisha]Well, what vulnerabilities do they have to begin with? Why haven’t they taken over the world, for example? If they are a superior race, what makes them stay secret?[/quote]

I haven’t really thought that part out much. I didn’t have any sort of plot or outline when I started and I had no idea what I was writing until, suddenly Dracula showed up in my story and took over it.

I’m thinking there are not very many of them, because it’s pretty hard to turn someone into a vampire. I think they just keep taking your blood, but you don’t turn into a vampire unless they actually kill you, and killing folks who defeat the purpose. For one thing creating new vampires would create competition, and I’m guessing these guys are loners and don’t want competition, so they are not out there trying to make new vampires. Secondly, they need blood to survive, so killing people would be a disadvantage because it lessens the blood supply. Or something along those lines at least. Therefor there are not many vampires out there and not many people are actually getting killed by them either.

I think instead of turning people into vampires, he would use mind control to make them sort of zombie-like, and get his minions that way. Than he wouldn’t have to worry about competition for local blood. I mean, it would take a whole town to feed a vampire if he didn’t want to kill every one right?

[quote=RoswellianMisha]
If you are in a modern set, you can have some high tech device that makes them uncomfortable, like a high decibel sound that only they can hear, or some very strong smell that makes them run for the hills.


If they don’t have that many physical vulnerabilities, maybe you can stop thinking in physical terms -unless your vampires can feel pain- and start thinking about their minds. What do they care for?


Once you figure out what keeps them interested in life, you might get something to take away from them. The prospect of losing it may keep them away.[/quote]

Yeah, kind of got a modern set going. I haven’t done any naming dates or anything and it seems to be pretty much “current time” so far. The MC’s are three 10 – 13 year old boys who find Dracula living next door, so I’m trying to figure out, what can these kids do to get rid of the vampires in their town.

I’ thinking of going with classic garlic to help them out here. Not sure yet, but I’m guessing the vampires are pretty sensitive to strong smells and such and so are sort of allergic to garlic. (and possibly rancid yak butter – thanks to the DARES thread LOL!)

I think their senses are super sensitive, so sounds, smells, etc would be big irritants. I like the high decibel idea. Hadn’t thought of that. I wonder how I could work that in?

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If they are subjected to the rules of magic -like not being able to enter a house if they are not invited- then maybe you can call in a mage and put a protective charm.

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The whole being invited thing, was on my mind but I’m not sure yet how to work it. It was one of the first things I thought of though. I plan on using it as the reason why so few people are getting attacked by the vampires – he can’t just sneak into their houses at night – they have to invite him in.

[quote=Dweebert]Plucking out their fangs? ;)


Ok how about Blinding?

How about fire, it hurts and maims.

Assuming the are undead I assuem they can be burnt or cremated.

And even if they can reconstitute themselves from ashes, what happens if the ashes are scattered or stored lin multiple containers, or the ashes are mixed in a vat of concerete and then pured into a buildling’s foundation?


On a similar note Being buried would probably be a big fear.


You also said decapitation wodl not kill them, but It should definately scare them.


Picture a row of pikes, each with the still screaming head of a defanged blinded vampire on it.

I think tha would be a effective deturrent for any wanna be Draculas using Dracula’s own tactics![/quote]

LOL! Love that – Rows of staked vampires – Dracula’s tactic being turned back on him.

I think there might be a way to bury them in their coffins so that they can’t get out. That sort of thing might work. Iron nails and buried upside down, something like that could work.

Turn to ash and than coming back – but not able to if ashes are locked in separate places – ugh – icky – but effective! That could be something I could use.

[quote=Lentil]Well, if they can’t die, any possibility of being trapped somewhere and left for years and years and years would be pretty scary. Do they retain human phobias and such? Can they regenerate limbs? If not, things that do permanent damage would not be great, as, well, living forever in a mutilated body is no one’s idea of a picnic.


Do they *know* they can’t die? Could you scare them into thinking maybe they could?[/quote]

I think Dracula knows he can’t die, but not sure about the others – they might not know.

Yeah – I think phobia would work too. Phobias are pretty irrational in humans, so why not have the same phobias they had when they were alive? Plus a lot of vampire myths have them pretty OCD so phobias could work good.

[quote=Sapphire-Shard]Cause them some sort of unimaginable pain?

Although i’m not sure how you would do that to a dead person.

Setting them on fire might work i guess! Or, depending on the time your novel is set, blast them with a UV light.

That would depend on whether your vampires are injured/killed by sunlight though…[/quote]

Yeah, I’m planning to use the whole sunlight thing. Only it doesn’t kill them, it’s more like wicked painful super powerful sunburn allergy to UV light sort of thing.

Wow. You guys have giving me all sorts of ideas I can work with here. Thanks! (and keep adding more too – I’ve got a whole 28 days more of writing to do – I’ll need all the ideas I can get! LOL!)

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Rancid Yak Butter (NaNoWriMo)

The Dares return every year. The Shovel of Death Returns every year. Death by Plastic Spork returns every year. Jello in the White House is back for a second year. I’ll bet Dolphin Cheese comes back next year. . . . wait . . . one of the annual NaNo threads did not return this year? ACK! What happened to the Rancid Yak Butter?!?!

Every year several of us use Rancid Yak Butter in our NaNovels. Every year I plan to use it, but to date I’ve never found a reason for one of my characters to have Rancid Yak Butter. Than this year, without warning, Rancid Yak Butter jumps into my NaNovel full force and is become the center of the plot . . . and there is no Rancid Yak Butter thread for me to shout out – I DID IT! I used Rancid Yak Butter in my NaNovel this year!

I couldn’t find the original rancid yak butter dare/thread, and I couldn’t remember which year’s archive it was in, so I don’t remember the exact words of the dare or the reason it got started, but at the Saco meetings we’ve been talking about a million and one ways to use rancid yak butter – it’s like been the main topic of discussion at every meeting so far! LOL!

We’ve talked about using it to build Igloos with, filling the White House with it instead of jello ;) , ways to use it as a weapon, etc.

I couldn’t figure out what to do with it until last night when midnight struck and I started writing. My plot I was going to write was about Jack Frost and a Frost Zombie apocalypse. But it was Halloween and my shelves are full of Vincent Price and Bela Lugosi DVDs and I spent 3 days watching nothing but.

I was still watching them when midnight rolled around and I got to start typing. And that’s when something strange happened – I found myself writing about 3 kids who saw this box being delivered to a deserted house and it turns out to be Dracula’s coffin, and they meet up with Bela Lugosi and for some odd reason one of the boy’s mother has joined a Tibetan yoga group that is lead by a monk that raises yaks and makes yak butter and so, the kids come home from discovering that Dracula has moved in next door to find their mom cooking garlic bread with rancid yak butter! LOL!

OMG! I have no idea where any of that came from, except I spent 3 meetings talking about rancid yak butter followed by three days of vampre movies and ended up writing that. I think the kids are going to end up fighting Dracula with Rancid Yak Butter Garlic Bread – and the way it’s going right now, rancid yak butter is going to be a MAJOR plot element this year! LOL!

So, long thread starter short – how will you be using Rancid Yak Butter in your NaNovel this year?

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So how’s NaNoWriMo going?

I logged in at 7PM and than went on Twitter and did a count down all over the world – It was like New Years Eve – watching folks in New Zealand shout out that midnight hit; than Australia folks started screaming it was midnight, and it just keep going on like that – I started getting really freaked out when the UK folks started writing, because I’m on the Eastern most point of the USA and that meant I was next in line to start screaming midnight. At midnight I was logged in and typing and freaking out and I did not get any sleep last night at all because once I hit 1667, I rushed back to Twitter and was shouting out word counts with every one else. OMG! Twitter and NaNo at the same time is so much fun. and Twitter and NaNo at midnight all over the world is just amazing!

I had my plot all ready to go – outlined, character bios, world created – spent 2 months writing it all up, was all excited and ready to go. Than midnight strikes and I start writing a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT plot all together!

I stayed up all night (seeing how it was Halloween) watching Bela Lugosi movies. The Devil Bat ended at 12:13 and I started writing and before I realized what I was doing I found myself writing Bela Lugosi/Dracula fan-fic instead of my plot! Now I have no plot, no characters (except Bela Lugosi), no world created, and yet, here I am writing away at the seat of my pants with no idea where it’s going, and I’m actually liking it and it’s surprisingly really good – damn good! YAY! I may have something worth publishing when I get done!

Just breezed past 2500 words! YAY! Hoping I can reach 5k before the end of the day. Looks like I might make it too. Going good.

It’s only the first day and I’m already procrastinating.

yep – I hit 2900, my goal was 5k for day one, but I got close to 3k and went, I gotta go shout out on Twitter and FaceBook and the forums and my blog and my other blog and call my boyfriend and tell him about it and oh look I need to play Vampire Wars to try to get the extra Halloween prizes I didn’t snag yesterday and oh I need to plant more pumpkins on Paradise Island before the limited edition seeds expire and by the way I need to check my FarmVille cows to see if they need milking and oh yeah I better see what my writing buddies are doing on the forums and I wonder what their word counts are and maybe I should grab some more Dares while I’m there and by the way . . . .

yep, I’m already procrastinating big time. :)

My inner editor is winning this year – YIKES! I’ve been correcting and editing as I go – my word count would be twice as high if I didn’t stop rushing back to fix things every other sentence! ACK!

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The “I Just Completed a NaNoDare!” ShoutOut

It’s the attack of the NaNoDare thread – I’m doing a NaNovel heavy on the Dares this year, and I know lots of you guys are doing the same, so here’s a thread to crash on and shout out each time you completed one of your dares!

I’ll go first -

I’m 4 hours and 2,964 words into my novel and already I’ve got dare shout outs coming left and right. Here’s what I’ve done so far:

- my MC is wearing yellow socks with pink bunnies on them

- his mom is making garlic bread out of rancid yak butter

- his best friend keeps saying “Oh my strawberry Pop-Tart of joy and spectacularly worn T-shirt of sexiness” at the end or beginning of every sentence

- a famous celebrity has made a cameo appearance – my celebrity of choice was Bela Lugosi

- the villain (Bela Lugosi) just sang “Twinkle Twinkle Little Star” at an unexpected moment

yep – the dares are coming along fine, and surprisingly, so far they have all made perfectly logical sense for my story! YAY!

- the first line of your story must be: “Where the hell are my pants?”

It was through my MC looking for his pants, that he ended up accidentally putting on his sister’s yellow socks with pink bunnies on them, so I ended up using 2 dares in one with that! YAY!

and an update on the rancid yak butter – part of the dare was to use it as a weapon, well, I haven’t used it as a weapon yet, but the fact that my MC’s mom is using it to make Garlic Bread in a story about vampires – yeah, there’s a good chance of my using rancid yak butter as a weapon at some point before Nov 30th rolls around! YAY!

I couldn’t find the original rancid yak butter dare, and I couldn’t remember which year’s archive it was in, but at the Saco meetings we’ve been talking about a million and one ways to use rancid yak butter – it’s like been the main topic of discussion at every meeting so far! LOL!

We’ve talked about using it to build Igloos with, filling the White House with it instead of jello ;) , ways to use it as a weapon, etc.

I couldn’t figure out what to do with it until last night when midnight struck and I started writing. My plot I was going to write was about Jack Frost and a Frost Zombie apocalypse. But it was Halloween and my shelves are full of Vincent Price and Bela Lugosi DVDs and I spent 3 days watching nothing but.

I was still watching them when midnight rolled around and I got to start typing. And that’s when something strange happened – I found myself writing about 3 kids who saw this box being delivered to a deserted house and it turns out to be Dracula’s coffin, and they meet up with Bela Lugosi and for some odd reason one of the boy’s mother has joined a Tibetan yoga group that is lead by a monk that raises yaks and makes yak butter and so, the kids come home from discovering that Dracula has moved in next door to find their mom cooking garlic bread with rancid yak butter! LOL!

OMG! I have no idea where any of that came from, except I spent 3 meetings talking about rancid yak butter followed by three days of vampre movies and ended up writing that. I think the kids are going to end up fighting Dracula with Rancid Yak Butter Garlic Bread – and the way it’s going right now, rancid yak butter is going to be a MAJOR plot element this year! LOL!

I must rush back to the Dare Thread and find more dares. OMG! I love Dares, I’m going to try to have at least one dare on every page of my entire novel this year. :)

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>NaNoWriMo 09 Post: Short story or novel?

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Found a question on NaNoWriMo today. Here’s the question and my answer to it:

Short story or novel?


How do I know whether a particular story idea is better suited for a short story or a novel? Some of my stories change from one to the other, and some, I can’t decide which to write.

How do you all handle this?

I usually start out not knowing how long my story is going to be. I just have an idea and I start writing and stop when I get to the end. Sometimes it’ll end at 10 pages, other times it’ll go one for 200 or more pages, most of my stories seem to end between 30 and 75 pages, I’ve noticed. I just write and let the story lead me to where it wants to go. I never start out thinking “I’ll write this to be a 100 page book.” or anything like that, because than I’ll have to stretch a story after it ended or water down a story that should have kept going, and really that shouldn’t happen. A story should end when it’s ready to end not at some pre-appointed spot.

Well, that’s how I do it at least and it works for me. I don’t know about any one else.

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NaNoWriMo 09 Post: Short story or novel?

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Found a question on NaNoWriMo today. Here’s the question and my answer to it:

Short story or novel?


How do I know whether a particular story idea is better suited for a short story or a novel? Some of my stories change from one to the other, and some, I can’t decide which to write.

How do you all handle this?

I usually start out not knowing how long my story is going to be. I just have an idea and I start writing and stop when I get to the end. Sometimes it’ll end at 10 pages, other times it’ll go one for 200 or more pages, most of my stories seem to end between 30 and 75 pages, I’ve noticed. I just write and let the story lead me to where it wants to go. I never start out thinking “I’ll write this to be a 100 page book.” or anything like that, because than I’ll have to stretch a story after it ended or water down a story that should have kept going, and really that shouldn’t happen. A story should end when it’s ready to end not at some pre-appointed spot.

Well, that’s how I do it at least and it works for me. I don’t know about any one else.

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>Sheilds or no?

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(Reposting this old post)

Have you ever watched Star Trek and heard Kirk tell Sulu to raise the deflector shields? I was reading a sci-fi writers forum today, and found a debate on wither or not a writer should use shields on their ships, and if so what are those shields like, how to they work, etc.? Of course I had to join in the debate. You know me. Well anyways, what follows here, is the answer I had to the debate:

In my stories the ships (most notably the VISION~D8) are built out of a “space age material” as us humans would call it. It is a silver colored metal-like substance. The ships are very smooth, with such a high polish that they have a slippery, almost wet feel to them.

The material is very strong, and very sturdy, and withstands the tiny particals that would rip other hulls apart.

Additionally, there is the shape of the ship, which is somewhat “football” shaped; the shape itself deflects things away from it; should anything actually hit the ship, the material is so slippery, that the object has no impact

the silver colored martial is so smooth, that is reflects it surroundings, rendering the ship itself “invisible”, camouflaging with its surroundings, making it able to slip past enemies unseen

I have never written any shields into the stories, it never occurred to me that the ships may even need them.

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Sheilds or no?

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(Reposting this old post)

Have you ever watched Star Trek and heard Kirk tell Sulu to raise the deflector shields? I was reading a sci-fi writers forum today, and found a debate on wither or not a writer should use shields on their ships, and if so what are those shields like, how to they work, etc.? Of course I had to join in the debate. You know me. Well anyways, what follows here, is the answer I had to the debate:

In my stories the ships (most notably the VISION~D8) are built out of a “space age material” as us humans would call it. It is a silver colored metal-like substance. The ships are very smooth, with such a high polish that they have a slippery, almost wet feel to them.

The material is very strong, and very sturdy, and withstands the tiny particals that would rip other hulls apart.

Additionally, there is the shape of the ship, which is somewhat “football” shaped; the shape itself deflects things away from it; should anything actually hit the ship, the material is so slippery, that the object has no impact

the silver colored martial is so smooth, that is reflects it surroundings, rendering the ship itself “invisible”, camouflaging with its surroundings, making it able to slip past enemies unseen

I have never written any shields into the stories, it never occurred to me that the ships may even need them.

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Sheilds or no?

(Reposting this old post)

Have you ever watched Star Trek and heard Kirk tell Sulu to raise the deflector shields? I was reading a sci-fi writers forum today, and found a debate on wither or not a writer should use shields on their ships, and if so what are those shields like, how to they work, etc.? Of course I had to join in the debate. You know me. Well anyways, what follows here, is the answer I had to the debate:

In my stories the ships (most notably the VISION~D8) are built out of a “space age material” as us humans would call it. It is a silver colored metal-like substance. The ships are very smooth, with such a high polish that they have a slippery, almost wet feel to them.

The material is very strong, and very sturdy, and withstands the tiny particals that would rip other hulls apart.

Additionally, there is the shape of the ship, which is somewhat “football” shaped; the shape itself deflects things away from it; should anything actually hit the ship, the material is so slippery, that the object has no impact

the silver colored martial is so smooth, that is reflects it surroundings, rendering the ship itself “invisible”, camouflaging with its surroundings, making it able to slip past enemies unseen

I have never written any shields into the stories, it never occurred to me that the ships may even need them.

What’s your take on this? I’d love to hear what you have to say about this post. Leave a comment and share your views!

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How Long is it?

I just found a chart that said this:

Flash: up to 1000 words
Short Short: Under 2,000 words
Short story: USA 2,000–7,500 words
Short Story: UK and Commonwealth 1000 – 12,000 words
Novelette (General Fiction): 7,500–15,000 words
Novelette (SF & Fantasy): 7,500–17,500 words
Novella (General Fiction): 15,000–30,000 words
Novella (SF & Fantasy): 17,500–40,000 words
Novel (General Fiction): Over 30,000 words
Novel (SF & Fantasy): Over 40,000 words

Well, these numbers are quite a bit “off” from what I grew up with as being standard. For one thing, as a writer of sci-fi I know for a fact that you’d be hard pressed to find a publisher that would publish a sci-fi novel shorter than 90,000 words, and would consider anything under 75,000 to be a novella. Is it my imagination of is current fiction getting shorter?

Bean and TOR (the 2 biggest names in sci-fi) both ask for at least 90,000 words and prefer 120,000 words for a novel. And Harliquin Romance currently looks for novels 75,000 words to 150,000 words.

Serial novellas in magazines are rarely shorter than 40,000 words; usually published in four 10,000 word parts because book publishers don’t publish short stories in book format… in other words those same publishers are saying that 40,000 words is a short story.

Anyways, I do wonder at the accuracy of that list, because it doesn’t follow the standards I’ve meet up with in my day to day career.

I’d recommend you check with the publishes themselves, because they are all going to say something differant anyways, as each has their own guidelines.

Anyways, I do wonder at the accuracy of that list, because it doesn’t follow the standards I’ve meet up with in my day to day career.

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