>Why would the girl who must save the world, decide to join forces with and marry the bad guy-villain?
My FMC is a human and my MMC is a Phooka (a kind of demon-evil faerie-spirit-creature). He’s a villain and he remains a villain even after the book ends. I haven’t figured out yet how to have them actually fall in love.
Instead of the good guy vanqueshed the villain, I’m going for the good guy changes sides and joins the villain… sort of a twisted happily ever after were the bad guy wins. Only in my story the good guy hero is actualy a good girl heroine who falls in love with the bad guy.
My book is a sword & sorcery fantasy, and I’ve got most of the fantasy plotting figured out, but it’s got this romance sub-plot that’s causeing me trouble.
My book starts before they meet. They won’t meet until about chapter 3 or so. I figured out how/why they meet. I’ve figured out the end with them going off together. But I haven’t figured out how they go from meeting each other to being lovers, that part of my plot is still a big black hole. I’m hoping to get ideas by reading the romance forum.
Well, I was wondering, does anyone here have any ideas on how or why my good-girl-heroine would by the end of the story join the “dark side” and live happily evil after with the villain?
I can see the points of good girl attracted to bad guy… but this isn’t the case. This guy isn’t human… he’s a demon who can take on human form. His race raise humans like cattle… humans are the prime source of their food supply, they eat humans. She’s a human.
My FMC is in her early 20′s and is spending the summer with her grandfather (in his 70′s). Grandfather is ancient history professor, the son of a famous archaeologist (discovered lost city in the Amazon during the late 1800′s, but than detroied evidance of the finding). FMC and her grandfather are spening the summer retracing her great-grandfathers trip, in an attempt to relocate the lost city.
They find lost city, but, it’s ruled by a pair of very real and very evil gods. Said “gods” are actualy demons–Phookas to be exact (shapeshifting-vampire-like creatures that eat human flesh), both about 400 years old. Turns out that the bird-god and jaguar-god myths of the Mayas and Aztec were not myths after all, and there really are gods that demand human sacrific…. and one of these gods is my MMC/villain.
Obstacles?
For starters she’s a human and he’s a human-eating demon… I have not yet figured out how they get past that obstacle and become lovers….uhm…I can see how he might favor her over other humans, and keep her alive, say like a pet, kind of like Jabba the Hut vs Princess Leia type of thing…
Is anyone else writing anything like this? What are you doing the jump over these kinds of obstacles between your couples? any suggestions would be nice.
Like:
Why would he not eat her?
Why would he fall in love with a creature that normaly lands on the dinner plate.
And also, why would she fall in love with a human-eating demon?
…I’m really stuck on this if anyone can think of any reasons they would become lovers.
Basicly, Why would she fall in love with and marry a demon? and why would he fall in love with and want to marry her.
Here are pics of them:
Here he is in his humanoid form:
Here they are, both of them together, he is in his Jaguar form in this picture:
Basicly, Why would she fall in love with and marry a demon?
Or to be more specific: Why would she decide to marry this guy:
My MMC’s Profile::
The quizz answers here are for my villain Blackbird who is alo my MC. He’s a character that I have used off and on in my stories since the 1980′s, so he’s well established, he’s also not human.
1.) What is your character’s name?
Born Esmerald Mudsburg, October 24, 1570, he was given the nickname Blackbird, after the form he chose to take on as his trademark shape.
2.) What does he/she look like?
He is Morphic Phooka, whose natural appearance if humanoid. He has exotic and highly attractive Mongolian features. His very long shaggy black hair that appears to have never seen a brush. He has unearthly, black, deeply slanted, almond shaped eyes lacking both whites and pupils, and which glow like blazen white coals when he is angered. His hands are long and thin, but muscular and abnormally strong. He is able to crush human bones with his bare hands. On his finger tips instead of fingernails he has sharp gleaming black eagle talons for ripping human flesh. Blackbird is both trickster and shapeshifter. He is neither human, nor does he have the emotions or mentality of a human. He is irrational and ruthless, known for acting fist and thinking later. His violent temper has lead to countless human deaths, many of whom he ate after killing. He often acts more animal than human and well growl, bare his fangs, and lash his claws when he feels threatened. Due to the fearsome nature of his natural appearance, Blackbird often takes the form of a human to befriend unsuspecting victims. His most often used form of choice however is the Veruex (The Black African Eagle) in a larger than natural size. Other favored forms include Panthers/Black Jaguars, and most black birds. In his natural “unmorphed” form he most resembles the Human called Alice Copper.
Blackbird looks just like this:
3.) Where does he/she live?
Blackbird lived most of his life in remote regions of China, Papua New Guinea, and the Amazon Rainforest. Later in life he was captured by humans and commited to The White Rock Asylum for the Criminally Insane. In this year’s NaNoNovel he lives in the Amazon.
4.) How old is he/she?
this year: 437 years old, nearling the end of his races average 500 year life span
5.) What time period does he/she live in?
From 1570 – current 2007
6.) Does he/she have any relatives?
Living relatives: his father, 3 younger brothers, one younger sister
Dead relatives: mother, 37 wives (most of them human)
Other: has a twin brother rumored to be dead
7.) What is his/her favorite color?
black
8.) What is his/her favorite food?
human flesh
9.) What types of clothes does he/she wear?
Blackbird spent most of his life in China (1600′s), and always dresses in black, wearing loose flowing silks in Asian cut. He sometimes wears elaborate masks and huge feathered headdresses of Mesoamerican style.
10.) Describe his/her pajamas:
wears a loose black silk kimono type robe to bed, but does not sleep on a bed, in humanoid and jaguar form he sleeps on the floor/ground, or in bird form in a tree
11.) What is his/her favorite book?
he is illiterate
12.) What is his/her favorite song/music genre?
likes wild tribal drum beats
13.) How often does your character shower/brush his/her teeth?
rarely
14.) When was the last time he/she went out on a date?
after 37 dead wives, women tend to stear clear of this dark creature
15.) Does he/she have allergies/asthma/some strange disease or susceptibility to disease?
no
16.) Does he/she play an instrument?
no
17.) Does he/she collect items?
the skulls of his victims; antique Chinese weapons; raises poison arrow frogs to make halucinagetic drugs with
18.) Does he/she have any friends?
only two, most people a terrified of him
19.) If you could place your person in a high school, which groups would he/she “click” with?
goths or emos would prob’ly find him cool
20.) What hair styles does your character have?
very long, shaggy, unkept, matted, unbrushed, very wild and savage looking
21.) If your character got lost in a forest, what would he/she do?
turn into a bird and fly over the tops of the trees to find the direction out
22.) If your character got flicked off by someone, what would he/she do?
rip out their throat and eat their heart
23.) If your character was asked out on a date by a random person, what would he/she do?
Women are his weakness, he has had many wives, several of them human, he tends to “woo” women in much the same hypnotic way that other dark races of faerie do. Women are adviced to keep their distance from him, as he tends to mate not date and lays claim to any woman willing to go near him, and well than slaughter and eat any male that gets near her
24.) Does your character have any phobias?
none for most of his life… after being released from the asylum he had many, including doctors and guards (they used toture to keep him sedated)
25.) Does your character have a job/profession?
Blackbird is the prime “deity/god” of the religous cult in several of my books; was a hitman for a ganster for a couple of years in more recent years.
26.) Is your character a morning person, or a late-night person?
Blackbird is very secretive and prefers his privacy, keeping out of the public eye, usually keeping to the shadows and is rarely seen by his victims. He uses stealth and the element of surprise to his advantage. People fear the darkness for fear than Blackbird will be lying in wait for them.
27.) If your character met you, what would he/she say/do?
??? no idea ???
28.) When is your character’s birthday?
October 24, 1570
29.) What habits does your character have?
A dangerous blood thirsty Morphic Phooka from the Realm of Fae, Blackbird spends much of his days in the form of a giant Black African Eagle, though he can take the form of anything or anyone he chooses, making him all the more dangerous as he could be disguised as your best friend and you would not know it until it was too late.
Like most races of Faerie, the Phookan race is far from friendly towards humans. The mildest Phookas resort to pranks and trickery, while the darkest are outright brutal and deadly. Blackbird is feared not only by humans, but by other Phookas as well.
The eldest son of the Phookan warrior: Aardsvorkus Mudsburg, a.k.a. The Mudbug. Blackbird was raised and trained to be a fighter in gladiator style “faerie rings”, where he quickly became the undefeated champion. His trademark was to change from humanoid to bird and back to humanoid form confusing his opponent, than killing them with a quick blow that turned their head front to back, and finally ensured their death by eating their heart and brain.
After The Red-Dragon and The Lansquin, Blackbird is considered the most feared and most dangerous man in the known universe (in my books).
30.) How would a character in your book who does not like this character describe him/her?
most say he is a monster; many would like to see him exicuted
————-
Copper Cockeral
Need To Publish Your NaNoNovel?
So You Think You Know Phookas?
What’s your take on this? I’d love to hear what you have to say about this post. Leave a comment and share your views!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
EDIT: November 23, 2007
well, I just got to the point were I started writing about this (I’d been avoiding it and writing everything else!)
Anyways… for a time i had her just kind of indifferant to him, but than today something totally unplanned and unexpected happened while I was writing: he gets hurt, really bad, and it’s the fault of one of her traveling compainions, and she starts looking at what’s been going on through “new eyes”. She’s starting to see that her and her friends are the ones that invading his realm, and that he’s only protecting his people from the human invaders, and now she’s looking at her friends and thinking: “We are the bad guys here… we started this… they didn’t come after us… we went after them”.
Apparently, they only eat the Humans, when the Humans wander into their realm, because Humans are able to harm (and kill) these demons, so they fear the humans and kill them and eat them as a way to protect themselves….
WOW! That point just totally hit me by surprise while I was writing today. Now it’s looking like the demons are really the good guys and the humans are the bad guys.
I am sooo not sticking to my plot and outline here… my characters have taken over and turned my planned story all inside out and as I write nothing is coming out as I had thought it would, but I’m thinking it’s coming out better this way than the way I had planned it.
anyways through the course of writing, she’s just naturally changing sides
[quote=Trilli]There’s only one reason a good-girl would fall
in love with the bad boy. She wants to reform him.
[/quote]
it’s possible she believs that she can, but to reform him would result in an end to a 27 year running series, and I have too much fun writing these stories to stop anytime soon, so she may try, but it won’t work if she does.
[quote=TirzahLaughs]he’s a fixer upper.[/quote]
definatly
[quote]With a demon you get great sex. That’s bonus numer
one. Girls will ignore a lot for good sex.[/quote]
In other stories about him, this would have been the case. Oddly, as a result of the Dare Thread… this story is completly devoid of sex. eeek!
[quote]Plus, she is stucking being goody two shoes all the
time. I bet he makes her feel a bit naughty. All good girls want to feel a bit
naughty. It makes you feel human.[/quote]
could be, I’ll have to explore her inner feelings more to find out.
[quote]I also bet she wants to fix him, make him a good guy.
Sigh. This, by the way, rarely works.[/quote]
uhm… word of note here… this is a well established character, I have already written 3 novels and more than 30 short stories featuring him. He even has a small fan base (which can be founs by Googleing for him) (I’m a profession author, and I’ve been writing these stories about him since the early 1980′s)
Anyways… he is most stories the side kick to the prime villain of the Twihlight Manor series. Thi is one of only a handful of stories in which he steals the stage as the prime villain of the story. But, point is, with a 27 year history, the Twighlight characters never change very much, it’s one of the things that has kept the series going for so long; and this guy, is no going “good” anytime soon. If anything he has gotten far more evil since I first created him.
So, yeah, maybe she might plan to try to change him, but I know right now, that if she did, she would find her skull added to the other skulls and shrunken heads in his collection. She is wife #36 of 38, and the others haven’t had much luck changing him.
[quote]If he really understood her on top of it, saw her as
a real, flawed person instead of a hero…that’d make him even more attractive.
Someone who loved you warts and all when everyone else wants you to be
perfect?[/quote]
I’m actualy thinking of going off in this direction. He’s a bit of an outcast from his own kind, which is why he lives among humans instead of his own people.
I’ve cast her as a bit of a Goth type (a lot like myself actually), and kind of pitted her against the world. She sees her kind (humans) as a bit of a snobby race, so as I’ve written it so far, she’s becomeing increasingly more and more feed up with humans, and in the past couple of days she’s made good strides towards joining him on the “dark side”
[quote]Okay, plus she could justify is eating humans
if….he only ate bad guys. Gross, I know but she might be able to get past it.
Oh and brushed his teeth alot. Or if the flesh…if he could pick it up at the
local demon store in a nice pre-pack. Less personal. Perhaps, she meets some
nice human cannibals that justify it?[/quote]
he’s the god of a Mayan-Inca civilization… They believe him to be Sambala God of Death (I did a lot of research to make him fit in with the real Sambala myth too), the reason they preform human sacrifies, is to keep him from just coming down into the city and eating just anyone he feels like.
[quote]Maybe he eats a guy that tries to kill her?[/quote]
I’ve actually been throwing this idea around in my head. I’ve got her and one of her traveling companions increasing pitted against each other. He attacked and nearly killed the “demon” (they are flesh and blood creatures, not spirit beings, they can be hurt and killed) She has taken pity on the creature and is now seeing her human friends as eil… she’s taken a large step towards turning to the “other” side just on hat. But now her friends are holding the demon captive and are tortureing him and she finds that she totally hates what they are doing to him. There is a high liklyhood that one of her friends tries to kill the demon, she protects him nearly getting herself killed, and that’ll be the turning point where he kills to protect her, and they end up together. I think. It looks like that’s the way it’s going.
[quote]Mmmm….how often does he have to eat. If its only a
couple times a year, well that could be worked out too.[/quote]
daily, just like humans, a Phooka has to eat to live just like any one else. Like cows make up 75% of the average diet for humans; humans make up 75% of the diet for Phookas; it’s just basic survival. He doesn’t see anything wrong with eating humans because
[quote]I suggest marriage counseling.[/quote]
I don’t think such a thing exists in the Twighlight Manor universe, nothing remotly close has ever shown up in any of the stories before.
————-
Publishing Your NaNo Novel?
Do You and I Read the Same Books?
Want to Give Me a Reward for Reaching 50k?
It’s that time of year again. Have you signed up for NaNoWriMo 2007 yet? Sign up today and let the world’s #1 writing contest begin!
Need To Publish Your NaNo Novel? Find Out How!
Got Writer’s BlocK? Kill It Today!
Need A Quiet Place To Write? Find Help Here!
Need Help Creating Characters? Check This Out!
Want to Do a Good Deed? Save the Goldeneagle.
